[FAQ] Hero Unites, er, Combos damage formula

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Julian
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[FAQ] Hero Unites, er, Combos damage formula

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Combo attack damage currently works as:

Get the base attack for each contributing member. Then divide by the number of members in the combo. (Need to test and confirm: Combos are either physical (grapple/throw/slash, or magical: elemental damage including plain. I think a physical combo would grab the base physical attack from everyone, and a magical one would grab the base magic attack from everyone. Which... would make some of the hybrid combos not as strong?)

The damage formula used is then the same as the one used by everything else. The combo multiplier is generally higher than most abilities.

I'm... not sure if this is intended, broken, or half broken. When you look at the multiplier of some combos, they seem like they might make sense, but when you look at others, they clearly don't.

Example:

Nowa + Seign: 1.15x multiplier, attacks all, 1 SP
I mean, buddy attack did 1x damage and was usable every turn (but I guess the drawback being you eventually lost it), but 0.57x damage to all enemies for 1 SP seems a bit balanced I think.

Nowa + Lian: 1.6x multiplier, 20% crit rate, 2 SP
For it to say it deals "heavy" damage but you're effectively doing 80% of the damage if they did regular attacks by themselves, this one does not seem right at all. A 20% crit rate doesn't make up for it, especially seeing as this costs 2 SP per person.

Nowa + Seign + Marisa: 2.3x multiplier, 2 SP
Similar to Lian. 76% of the damage for 2 SP from three characters doesn't seem right?

I think their intent wasn't to divide the base attack by the number of contributing units, but it's hard to tell. Some of these would be really overpowered if that were the case. But as it stands, outside of the healing unite, I never found any of them worth using.
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Re: Hero Unites, er, Combos

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Yes it would be good to put it in a bug report. The division part is certainly a huge nerf to the damage. I tried out "massive damage" combos and was utterly disappointed when the damage was pretty much what 1 character could do with a strong attack.
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Re: [FAQ] Hero Unites, er, Combos damage formula

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Full list of Hero combos, as far as I can tell. Quite impressive that almost everyone is included, except for Kallathor and Rudy.

Friendship Combo : Nowa Seign
Senior & Junior Combo : Nowa Lian
Heroes Combo : Nowa Seign Marisa
Mercenary Combo : Garr Sabine
Kings of Beasts Combo : Garr Gigina
Kogen’s Boys Combo : Kogen Yuthus Zabi
Light and Dark Heal Combo : Falward Francesca
Siblings Combo : Wyler Marin
Bodyguard Combo : Iugo Garoo
Stealth Combo : Mio Hakugin
Young Imperial Combo : Seign Valentin Pohl
Magitech Combo : Pohl Ivy
Tactician Combo : Melridge Hildi
Girls Combo : Perrielle Lian
Quiet Combo : Yaelu Mihlu
Griffin Rider Combo : Marisa Aielor
Dragon Rider Combo : Nowa Chandra
Shoot and Slash Combo : Iugo Aoi
Fire at Will Combo : Kuroto Wyler Aoi
Magical Girl Combo : Mellore Carrie Momo
Mage Combo : Gieran Mellore Maureus
Mage Combo : Gieran Mellore Momo
Mage Combo : Gieran Momo Maureus
Mage Combo : Mellore Momo Maureus
Complete Mage Combo : Gieran Mellore Momo Maureus
Rising Combo : CJ Isha Garoo
Complete Heroes Combo : Nowa Seign Marisa CJ Isha Garoo
Elves Combo : Arle Lilwn
Major Nobles Combo : Yusuke Jorhan
Kids Combo : Falward Leon Yume Faye
Dwarves Combo : Galdorf Prunella
Sharpest Spear Combo : Riufan Foxiel
Barrow Secrets Combo : Nil Quinn
Noble Combo : Perrielle Jorhan
Cleave Combo : Mio Iugo Wayve
Guardians Combo : Marisa Wayve
True Friends Combo : Marisa Leene
Lucky Meddlers Combo : Nowa Leene
Big Bro Combo : Valentin Wayve Barnard
Old Friends Combo : Riufan Lam
Veterans Combo : Riufan Lam Prunella Momo
Martial Arts Combo : Lian Lam Celia
Steeryn Combo : Dijkstra Shixeen
Jacked Combo : Maureus El Alicanto Dijkstra
Sturdiest Shield Combo : Yuthus Reyna
Big Sis Combo : Sabine Hakugin Reyna Celia
Beigoma Combo : Reid Dr Corque
Shark Combo : Yuferius Scarlet
Ghostly Rule Combo : Markus Milana
MMM Combo : Melridge Maxim Markus
Elves Combo : Lakian Lilwn
Land, Sea, and Air Combo : Garoo Viesskin Yuferius
Land, Sea, and Air Combo : Garoo Viesskin Scarlet
Knightly Combo : Elektra Maxim
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