Suikoden I & II Coming to Steam, XBOXone, PS4, Switch

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Re: Suikoden I & II Coming to Steam, XBOXone, PS4, Switch

Postby Raww Le Klueze » Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:16 am

The Remasters have been rated by the ESRB, unsurprisingly they retain their original ratings but the summaries include some examples of the "suggestive" parts of the new script.

https://www.esrb.org/ratings/38870/suik ... -rune-war/
https://www.esrb.org/ratings/38865/suik ... ation-war/

The S1 examples are easy to identify, it's the Flik/Kimberly scene and a maid NPC in Gregminster.
For S2, the first might be Nina berating the Highland soldier, the second is an NPC in Rockaxe during Clive's quest, the last is probably an NPC in the stage area of the castle. S2 seems to have made larger changes to the originals, making it harder to identify.

Interesting that they've given them seperate ratings though, compare to Advace Wars 1+2 Reboot Camp, the ESRB rated that as one title so maybe they'll be offering them seperately as well?
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Postby KingSpilly » Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:34 am

I wonder if they'll be more overt with why Luca hates Muse in the remaster.
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Postby son_michael » Sat Nov 19, 2022 9:37 pm

The Remasters have been rated by the ESRB, unsurprisingly they retain their original ratings but the summaries include some examples of the "suggestive" parts of the new script.

https://www.esrb.org/ratings/38870/suik ... -rune-war/
https://www.esrb.org/ratings/38865/suik ... ation-war/

The S1 examples are easy to identify, it's the Flik/Kimberly scene and a maid NPC in Gregminster.
For S2, the first might be Nina berating the Highland soldier, the second is an NPC in Rockaxe during Clive's quest, the last is probably an NPC in the stage area of the castle. S2 seems to have made larger changes to the originals, making it harder to identify.

Interesting that they've given them seperate ratings though, compare to Advace Wars 1+2 Reboot Camp, the ESRB rated that as one title so maybe they'll be offering them seperately as well?
Oh good, so we are actually going to get a uncensored script?

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Re: Suikoden I & II Coming to Steam, XBOXone, PS4, Switch

Postby thcrock » Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:44 pm

What do you mean by uncensored? The ESRB ratings are the same so I wouldn't expect anything hugely different from the originals in that respect.

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Postby Raww Le Klueze » Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:34 am

Don't know how picky the ESRB are about it, but they do have a "alchohol references" tag that is absent from the rating and S1 has a few of those in Japanese that the localization turned into tea originally.
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Postby Rooks » Thu Dec 22, 2022 3:45 am

So, most of the Western ratings boards have changed certain criteria in the interim between the original release and now. Alcohol References are now, well, referenced by the board. As are Tobacco References, as are other 18-21 substances, depending on the local laws. This is true with PEGI and The Australian Classification Ratings Board as well, the latter being rather notoriously conservative on these subjects. It then, leads to the fact that the games had to be re-cllassified, and a small possibility that those ratings could change. But, well, they didn't, to the surprise of no one. The Alcohol Reference is particularly vague though, as the Wine Trading aspects of the game could trigger that alone, without any characters drinking a drop, as it tends to be enforced with enthusiasm by these boards, to put it as kindly as possible lol.

But yeah, "Tea" was quite commonly used as a euphemism for Sake, Wine, Ale, and other forms of alcohol in games, even in the PS1 era. See Star Ocean: Second Story, and many others. My favorite being Chrono Trigger, where you pour "Soda Pop" over Toma's grave. And bartenders admonish their customers for drinking too much "sugar." Ha! classic.

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Re: Suikoden I & II Coming to Steam, XBOXone, PS4, Switch

Postby Paulito » Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:08 am

Hi everyone,

For information, Suikoden is available for pre-order in a belgian shop in physical version. But the most interesting thing is that they put a date : march 9, 2023. Possible leak.

https://www.fr.fnac.be/a17586082/SUIKOD ... ndo-Switch

Sorry for my english. I just came by to warn y'all.

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Postby JuveLeo » Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:49 pm

Interesting stuff if that release date is true. I thought they were projecting a summer release.

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Postby Raww Le Klueze » Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:34 pm

Strange that they're anticipating a PEGI 12 rating when the originals were 7, but if they have included alcohol and curses in the reworked localization that could have pushed them up.
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Re: Suikoden I & II Coming to Steam, XBOXone, PS4, Switch

Postby JuveLeo » Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:37 am

Several sites and Twitter posts are all talking about a March release. Seems it may be true after all. I'm pretty excited!

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Postby thcrock » Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:21 pm

All of those sites and posts are sourced from the same French store listing, so I would still take it with a grain of salt. But definitely there is a lot of anticipation.

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Re: Suikoden I & II Coming to Steam, XBOXone, PS4, Switch

Postby Antimatzist » Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:38 am

No German retailer has the game for pre-order yet, so I'm not sure about a March release. For comparison: The TMNT Cowabunga edition was available for pre-order months before release. That one was published by Konami directly, so if they changed the publisher, this might be no useful info at all. Still, I think that for a game which supposedly releases in two months physically, I would expect a bit more info right now.

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Re: Suikoden I & II Coming to Steam, XBOXone, PS4, Switch

Postby Antimatzist » Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:42 am

The French store changed its March release date now to a generic placeholder of December 31.

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Re: Suikoden I & II Coming to Steam, XBOXone, PS4, Switch

Postby srd_27 » Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:11 am

The French store changed its March release date now to a generic placeholder of December 31.
they still said 9 March here?
https://www.fr.fnac.be/a17586081/SUIKOD ... yStation-4

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Re: Suikoden I & II Coming to Steam, XBOXone, PS4, Switch

Postby Antimatzist » Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:30 am

The French store changed its March release date now to a generic placeholder of December 31.
they still said 9 March here?
https://www.fr.fnac.be/a17586081/SUIKOD ... yStation-4
They at least changed it for the Switch version.
https://www.fr.fnac.be/a17586082/SUIKOD ... earchpos=1


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