[FAQ] Explanation of magic system

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[FAQ] Explanation of magic system

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I was wondering if we could get an indepth explanation of the new magic system, and a detailing of the difference between it and previous games?

PLEASE?
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Every character has 10 or so spells by the end of the game. Only four can be set for use in battle. You can access the magic list to switch spells by touching the brown orb(usually near the blue orb-save point)

Some spells are passive, providing effects like counter rate up, defense up, magic defense up, speed up, chance of starting battle berserked, etc.

Physical attack spells like sacrifice a bit of hp for 2x attack, 2.5x attack, or unbalance, 1.4x damage but act last, 1x dmg+medium probability of poison, etc.

Magic attack spells can be categorized into 3 main groups. Electric(dmg+paralyze single target), ice(all enemies), fire(single target). Paralyze means a 30% chance of not being able to act for the turn, lasts 5 turns. I listed electric, fire, and ice up there, but there aren't really any elemental attributes in this game.

Heal spells, single and group.

Revivify.

In general, characters use many of the same spells. MP is rarely a problem, I've never run out of mp.
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are you serious? no use of the established main elements? no Earth or Wind magic?
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That is correct.
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so i assume weaknesses rotate? Fire to water, water to electric, electric to fire? Any spell combination abilities?
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No elemental weaknesses, no combo magic.
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Yeah, the magic system underwent a major downgrade as the Marks were introduced. Even the spell animations are subpar, at best.

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Do exist runes at all? If so, can you name a few? :)
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No runes, only Marks of the Stars.

It's kinda funny actually, not even the people from the Magic Empire of Janam seem to actually know any magic till you give them their marks.
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Runes are one of my favorite topics in the suiko universe :cry: I trace the different runes, classes and lines throughout the whole series ever since the first game.
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Is there a background story about the magic in Tierkreis? I mean, these things:
Physical attack spells like sacrifice a bit of hp for 2x attack, 2.5x attack, or unbalance, 1.4x damage but act last, 1x dmg+medium probability of poison, etc.
are exactly the effects which some runes did offer, so why abandon runes?
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CelesDestiny wrote:Runes are one of my favorite topics in the suiko universe :cry: I trace the different runes, classes and lines throughout the whole series ever since the first game.
Same here. The runes peeked the most interest from me.
It's sad they don't exist in this game.

But before I go all "OMGWTFIHATETHISGAME" I'll get it and try it.

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RangerDeon wrote:
CelesDestiny wrote:Runes are one of my favorite topics in the suiko universe :cry: I trace the different runes, classes and lines throughout the whole series ever since the first game.
Same here. The runes peeked the most interest from me.
It's sad they don't exist in this game.

But before I go all "OMGWTFIHATETHISGAME" I'll get it and try it.
I agree Deon, too bad not everyone has your open mind
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but i think there magic which are similar to runes
example the shrike rune, i saw selen used it and falcon rune which crodeclic owns ... i doubt the name is Shrike and Falcon but the animation looks alike
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What a suiko game without the runes and the true runes.
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