Miscellaneous errors
- Jocky
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Re: Miscellaneous errors
Yeah, I think its maybe just a typo. You have to have Milich recruited before Ivanov will join you, but not actually IN your party.
- BrucePrintscreen
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Yes this is accurate.Jocky wrote:Yeah, I think its maybe just a typo. You have to have Milich recruited before Ivanov will join you, but not actually IN your party.
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Re: Miscellaneous errors
Thanks for the corrections!
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Looks like my corrections never were made on the site proper. Can someone please take care of them? (Suikogaidens 1 and 2)
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Not really an error just a missing quote from the Teo and Pahn duel:
"Now that I've seen what you've got, I'll show you what I can do."
Followed by a Desperate Attack. Why, Teo, whyyyyy?!
"Now that I've seen what you've got, I'll show you what I can do."
Followed by a Desperate Attack. Why, Teo, whyyyyy?!
- Raww Le Klueze
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I'm pretty sure the old duel guides were just written down through normal gameplay, we really should datamine them cause I'm positive some lines are missing for most duels.
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Should point out that it also applies to the fight with Tir.
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Suikodn IV recruitment list:
If you didn't recruit Adrienne in Obel, you can recruit her in Middleport later if you bring her the Silver Hammer.
If you didn't recruit Adrienne in Obel, you can recruit her in Middleport later if you bring her the Silver Hammer.
- sticky-runes
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Jocky wrote:Yeah, I think its maybe just a typo. You have to have Milich recruited before Ivanov will join you, but not actually IN your party.
You can still recruit Ivanov even if you kill Milich or decline his offer to join your army. It's Kasios who can't be recruited without Milich. Ivanov doesn't give a f#ck what you do with Milich after you take Scarleticia, as long as he gets his freedom.
- Neclord X
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I almost got a heart attack the past week when I tried to enter and the website had dissapeared. Glad to see everything is ok
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I have some corrections/additions for Suikoden II's Damage Equations in the In-Depth Guides.
CORRECTION:
Critical Hits
Actual formula is:
(TECH+(LUCK/2))/16 = Critical Hit percentage
ADDITIONS:
Hit Chance:
(Attacker TECH - (Defender SPEED - 80) + HitBonus) = Hit%
*Note: Bounded between 100% and 35%, ie you always have at least 35% chance to hit. HitBonus refers to items like Thunder God Garb and Thunder Amulet which raise Hit, but not TECH.
War Battle Technique Hit Rate:
Fire Spears: 50% chance to hit per target
Adlai's Explosion: 50% chance to hit per target
Luc's Wind Magic: 30% chance to hit
Jeane's Lightning: 2 distinct 30% chances to hit
*Note: None of the above are affected by Atk or Def values at all.
I verified each of the above through checking the game's code. I don't know what Mazus's Fire Magic hit chance is since I didn't have him available during testing.
SECRETS Correction:
The Suikoden II "Armor Swapping" bug should be removed since the instructions to reproduce it are impossible and as of yet nobody has reported a successful method to use it. If nothing else, it should at least be labeled as "Bogus" or something along those lines.
CORRECTION:
Critical Hits
Actual formula is:
(TECH+(LUCK/2))/16 = Critical Hit percentage
ADDITIONS:
Hit Chance:
(Attacker TECH - (Defender SPEED - 80) + HitBonus) = Hit%
*Note: Bounded between 100% and 35%, ie you always have at least 35% chance to hit. HitBonus refers to items like Thunder God Garb and Thunder Amulet which raise Hit, but not TECH.
War Battle Technique Hit Rate:
Fire Spears: 50% chance to hit per target
Adlai's Explosion: 50% chance to hit per target
Luc's Wind Magic: 30% chance to hit
Jeane's Lightning: 2 distinct 30% chances to hit
*Note: None of the above are affected by Atk or Def values at all.
I verified each of the above through checking the game's code. I don't know what Mazus's Fire Magic hit chance is since I didn't have him available during testing.
SECRETS Correction:
The Suikoden II "Armor Swapping" bug should be removed since the instructions to reproduce it are impossible and as of yet nobody has reported a successful method to use it. If nothing else, it should at least be labeled as "Bogus" or something along those lines.
Last edited by Omnigamer on Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Miscellaneous errors
I just checked out the guides for 1 & 2, and yeah, they probably should be replaced. I wouldn't worry about datamining them unless it's easy to find; I spent at least 10 hours on both Suikoden I & II and I'm 99% sure I have all of them in my guide. (Minus the one someone brought up to me not too long ago.)Raww Le Klueze wrote:I'm pretty sure the old duel guides were just written down through normal gameplay, we really should datamine them cause I'm positive some lines are missing for most duels.
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Might be a mistake on my part, but this looks to be an error on the Suikoden timeline located here: http://www.suikosource.com/history/timeline/
Do Crowley and Mazus duel before they're born? Or am I reading this backwards? Cuz if so, then the "Fire Bringer War" entries would be off. :-/ ?340 - Crowley and Mazus Duel
345: Births - Crowley
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374: Births - Mazus
- Pyriel
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They both resurrected at some point after their initial duel. It's not clear why or how, but it probably has something to do with the number of runes they used and they ways they were exploring magic.
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Then 345 and 374 should be marked as their RE-birth, because their birthdates seem to be unknown. What's the source of that duel date anyway?
More stuff for completion: In the geography section there are no entries for Drakemouth (S2; Dunan) and Terana Plains (Tactics; Kooluk).
More stuff for completion: In the geography section there are no entries for Drakemouth (S2; Dunan) and Terana Plains (Tactics; Kooluk).
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