Weapon Growth
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Weapon Growth
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Weapon growth seems kinda messed up in Suikoden V, as far as I can tell there are 6 different classes of weapons:
1. Baton, Book, Cndctr's Baton, Dual/Twin Swords, Katana (regular), Ninja-To, Parasol, Rapier
2. 2-Handed Sword, Gun, Iai Sword, Katana (Hazuki), Nodachi, Pickaxe, Shovel, Zweihander
3. Anchor, Bows, Chakram, Kunai, Mooring Rope, Needle, Throwing Knives, Trident (?!!)
4. Wands, Scepter, Staff
5. Bo, Claw, Guitar, Hammers, H.Boomerang, Knuckles, Mallets, Nagamaki, Pike, Spears, Whip
6. Mechanical Arm, Wrench, Tri-Section-Staves
No| 01 | 02 | 03 | 04 | 05 | 06 | 07 | 08 | 09 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 |
1. |010|015|030|045|055|075|110|120|130|150|165|180|200|210|220|230|
2. |020|030|045|060|075|085|120|130|140|155|170|185|220|230|240|255|
3. |020|030|045|060|080|100|120|135|145|160|170|185|210|220|230|245|
4. |005|010|020|030|040|050|070|080|090|115|125|140|160|170|185|200|
5. |010|020|035|050|075|090|110|125|140|160|170|180|190|210|230|250|
6. |010|020|030|045|055|070|110|125|135|150|165|180|210|220|235|255|
So can anyone fill in the missing numbers or see any mistakes? If not I should be able to fill the rest in soon enough as I go through my new game+
Weapon growth seems kinda messed up in Suikoden V, as far as I can tell there are 6 different classes of weapons:
1. Baton, Book, Cndctr's Baton, Dual/Twin Swords, Katana (regular), Ninja-To, Parasol, Rapier
2. 2-Handed Sword, Gun, Iai Sword, Katana (Hazuki), Nodachi, Pickaxe, Shovel, Zweihander
3. Anchor, Bows, Chakram, Kunai, Mooring Rope, Needle, Throwing Knives, Trident (?!!)
4. Wands, Scepter, Staff
5. Bo, Claw, Guitar, Hammers, H.Boomerang, Knuckles, Mallets, Nagamaki, Pike, Spears, Whip
6. Mechanical Arm, Wrench, Tri-Section-Staves
No| 01 | 02 | 03 | 04 | 05 | 06 | 07 | 08 | 09 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 |
1. |010|015|030|045|055|075|110|120|130|150|165|180|200|210|220|230|
2. |020|030|045|060|075|085|120|130|140|155|170|185|220|230|240|255|
3. |020|030|045|060|080|100|120|135|145|160|170|185|210|220|230|245|
4. |005|010|020|030|040|050|070|080|090|115|125|140|160|170|185|200|
5. |010|020|035|050|075|090|110|125|140|160|170|180|190|210|230|250|
6. |010|020|030|045|055|070|110|125|135|150|165|180|210|220|235|255|
So can anyone fill in the missing numbers or see any mistakes? If not I should be able to fill the rest in soon enough as I go through my new game+
Last edited by killey on Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:56 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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A few weapons do change not at 7 and 13.
Here's my additions to your list.
1 ................................../120/130/......
2. 20/30/45/60/75/85/120/130/140/.......
3. ................................../135/145/.......
4. 5/10/20/30/40/50/70/80/?/?/.........
5. .................................../125/140/......
6. 10/20/30/45/55/70/110/125/135/.......
Here's my additions to your list.
1 ................................../120/130/......
2. 20/30/45/60/75/85/120/130/140/.......
3. ................................../135/145/.......
4. 5/10/20/30/40/50/70/80/?/?/.........
5. .................................../125/140/......
6. 10/20/30/45/55/70/110/125/135/.......
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And for the hell of it, here's the weapon names I have written down.
Belcoot - Akatsiya/Giatsint/Gvozdika
Cius - Lieutenant's Sword/Colonel's Sword/?
Cornelio - Forte/Fortissimo/Fortississimo
Dinn - Manar al-Sana/Najm al-Sabah/Shams al-Zuha
Galleon - Earthquake Halberd/Raging Sea Halberd/Thundering Halberd
Georg - Wind/Moon/Cloud
Jeane - Rod/Silver Rod/?
Killey - Shadow/Shade/Night
Kyle - Fast Wind/?/?
Lelei - same as Cius
Logg - Stone Anchor/Iron Anchor/?
Lorelai - Leather Whip/Chain Whip/Ninetail Whip
Lun - Kingfisher Harpoon/Tern Harpoon/?
Lyon - Deutzia/Trifoliate Orange/Orchid
Maroon - Wood Hammer/Hard Hammer/?
Miakis - Hesperioidea/Nymphalidae/Swallowtail
Prince - Twilight Nunchaku/Dawn Nunchaku/Sun Nunchaku
Rahal - Cuthenkazma/Forbitor/?
Roog - Bagaraatan/Zapsalis/?
Shoon - Talons/Crazed Claw/Gold Claw
Sialeeds - Sun Chakram/Sun Chakram/?(although I can hazard a guess...)
Wabon - Stone Wrench/Iron Wrench/?
Zerase - Shooting Star/Brilliant Star/?
Zweig - Eruditus/Professor/Philosofs
Belcoot - Akatsiya/Giatsint/Gvozdika
Cius - Lieutenant's Sword/Colonel's Sword/?
Cornelio - Forte/Fortissimo/Fortississimo
Dinn - Manar al-Sana/Najm al-Sabah/Shams al-Zuha
Galleon - Earthquake Halberd/Raging Sea Halberd/Thundering Halberd
Georg - Wind/Moon/Cloud
Jeane - Rod/Silver Rod/?
Killey - Shadow/Shade/Night
Kyle - Fast Wind/?/?
Lelei - same as Cius
Logg - Stone Anchor/Iron Anchor/?
Lorelai - Leather Whip/Chain Whip/Ninetail Whip
Lun - Kingfisher Harpoon/Tern Harpoon/?
Lyon - Deutzia/Trifoliate Orange/Orchid
Maroon - Wood Hammer/Hard Hammer/?
Miakis - Hesperioidea/Nymphalidae/Swallowtail
Prince - Twilight Nunchaku/Dawn Nunchaku/Sun Nunchaku
Rahal - Cuthenkazma/Forbitor/?
Roog - Bagaraatan/Zapsalis/?
Shoon - Talons/Crazed Claw/Gold Claw
Sialeeds - Sun Chakram/Sun Chakram/?(although I can hazard a guess...)
Wabon - Stone Wrench/Iron Wrench/?
Zerase - Shooting Star/Brilliant Star/?
Zweig - Eruditus/Professor/Philosofs
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Here's the ones I know added to yours:
Alhazred - Nameless Cults, 7 Cryptical Books, Howls of Demons
Belcoot - Akatsiya, Giatsint, Gvozdika
Bergen - Shovel, Super Shovel, Super Duper Shovel
Bernadette - Het-Heru, Nebt-het, ?
Cathari - Rotkäppchen, Aschenputtel, Schneewittchen
Cius - Lieutenant's Sword, Colonel's Sword, General's Sword
Cornelio - Forte, Fortissimo, Fortississimo
Dinn - Manar al-Sana, Najm al-Sabah, Shams al-Zuha
Eresh - Erra, Gugalnanna, ?
Faylen - Wind Boomerang, Gale Boomerang, Hurricane Boomerang
Faylon - Basher, Smasher, Clobberific
Gavaya - Hatchet, Rati, ?
Galleon - Earthquake Halberd, Raging Sea Halberd, Thundering Halberd
Georg - Wind, Moon, Cloud
Goesch - Club, Log Club, ?
Gunny - Tarantula, Shrew, Mole
Hazuki - Nukate, Mimasu, Ishima
Isabel - Hertjoturr, Sigrún, ?
Isato - Daphne Bow, Lotus Bow, ?
Jeane - Rod, Silver Rod, Crystal Rod
Josephine - Oalatyne, Melior, ?
Killey - Shadow, Shade, Night
Kisara - Mooring Rope, Fortified Rope, Dahak's Rope
Kyle - Fast Wind, Sword Wind, Tianjin Wind
Lelei - same as Cius
Levi - Adder Staff, Krait Staff, Viper Staff
Logg - Stone Anchor, Iron Anchor, Shenzhen Iron Anchor
Lorelai - Leather Whip, Chain Whip, Ninetail Whip
Lu - Puckle Bow, Eiger Bow, Gatling Bow
Lun - Kingfisher Harpoon, Tern Harpoon, Osprey Harpoon
Lyon - Deutzia, Trifoliate Orange, Orchid
Maroon - Wood Hammer, Hard Hammer, Beaver Hammer
Mathias - Isabel, Isabel+, Isabel++
Meroon - Wood Nuoh, Hard Nuoh, Beaver Nuoh
Miakis - Hesperioidea, Nymphalidae, Swallowtail
Miroon - Wood Brush, Hard Brush, Beaver Brush
Moroon - Wood String, Hard String, Beaver String
Muroon - Wood Hammer, Hard Hammer, Beaver Hammer
Nakula - Grunt Spear, Oni Spear, God Spear
Nelis - Nekhbet, Dhwty, ?
Nick - Lizard's Tail, Komodo's Claw, ?
Nifsara - Shataghanta, Shakti, ?
Nikea - Poor Wolf Fist, Starved Wolf Fist, ?
Norma - Lovely Baton, Ribbon Baton, Mega Baton
Prince - Twilight Nunchaku, Dawn Nunchaku, Sun Nunchaku
Rahal - Cuthenkazma, Forbitor, Lamphinian
Raven - Rook, Carrion Crow, Nevermore
Richard - Stielglitz, Zaunkönig, ?
Roog - Bagaraatan, Zapsalis, Angaturama
Roy - Twilight Numbchaku, Dawn Numbchaku, Sun Numbchaku
Sagiri - Splinter, Sliver, ?
Sharmista - Agneya, Asani, ?
Shigure - Rain, Hail, Hailstone
Shoon - Talons, Crazed Claw, Gold Claw
Sialeeds - Sun Chakram, Sun Chakram, ?
Sorensen - Crazy Barrel 1, Crazy Barrel 2, Crazy Barrel 3
Subala - Wave Sasumata, Moon Sasumata, Pine Wind Sasumata
Urda - Hyale, Cyrene, Callisto
Viki - Wand, Wa-Wa-Wa-Wand, Uwa-Wa-Wa-Wa-Wand
Wabon - Stone Wrench, Iron Wrench, Steel Wrench
Yahr - Neshmet, Mesektet, Manjet
Zegai - Zenki, Sojo, ?
Zerase - Shooting Star, Brilliant Star, ?
Zweig - Eruditus, Professor, Philosofs
Alhazred - Nameless Cults, 7 Cryptical Books, Howls of Demons
Belcoot - Akatsiya, Giatsint, Gvozdika
Bergen - Shovel, Super Shovel, Super Duper Shovel
Bernadette - Het-Heru, Nebt-het, ?
Cathari - Rotkäppchen, Aschenputtel, Schneewittchen
Cius - Lieutenant's Sword, Colonel's Sword, General's Sword
Cornelio - Forte, Fortissimo, Fortississimo
Dinn - Manar al-Sana, Najm al-Sabah, Shams al-Zuha
Eresh - Erra, Gugalnanna, ?
Faylen - Wind Boomerang, Gale Boomerang, Hurricane Boomerang
Faylon - Basher, Smasher, Clobberific
Gavaya - Hatchet, Rati, ?
Galleon - Earthquake Halberd, Raging Sea Halberd, Thundering Halberd
Georg - Wind, Moon, Cloud
Goesch - Club, Log Club, ?
Gunny - Tarantula, Shrew, Mole
Hazuki - Nukate, Mimasu, Ishima
Isabel - Hertjoturr, Sigrún, ?
Isato - Daphne Bow, Lotus Bow, ?
Jeane - Rod, Silver Rod, Crystal Rod
Josephine - Oalatyne, Melior, ?
Killey - Shadow, Shade, Night
Kisara - Mooring Rope, Fortified Rope, Dahak's Rope
Kyle - Fast Wind, Sword Wind, Tianjin Wind
Lelei - same as Cius
Levi - Adder Staff, Krait Staff, Viper Staff
Logg - Stone Anchor, Iron Anchor, Shenzhen Iron Anchor
Lorelai - Leather Whip, Chain Whip, Ninetail Whip
Lu - Puckle Bow, Eiger Bow, Gatling Bow
Lun - Kingfisher Harpoon, Tern Harpoon, Osprey Harpoon
Lyon - Deutzia, Trifoliate Orange, Orchid
Maroon - Wood Hammer, Hard Hammer, Beaver Hammer
Mathias - Isabel, Isabel+, Isabel++
Meroon - Wood Nuoh, Hard Nuoh, Beaver Nuoh
Miakis - Hesperioidea, Nymphalidae, Swallowtail
Miroon - Wood Brush, Hard Brush, Beaver Brush
Moroon - Wood String, Hard String, Beaver String
Muroon - Wood Hammer, Hard Hammer, Beaver Hammer
Nakula - Grunt Spear, Oni Spear, God Spear
Nelis - Nekhbet, Dhwty, ?
Nick - Lizard's Tail, Komodo's Claw, ?
Nifsara - Shataghanta, Shakti, ?
Nikea - Poor Wolf Fist, Starved Wolf Fist, ?
Norma - Lovely Baton, Ribbon Baton, Mega Baton
Prince - Twilight Nunchaku, Dawn Nunchaku, Sun Nunchaku
Rahal - Cuthenkazma, Forbitor, Lamphinian
Raven - Rook, Carrion Crow, Nevermore
Richard - Stielglitz, Zaunkönig, ?
Roog - Bagaraatan, Zapsalis, Angaturama
Roy - Twilight Numbchaku, Dawn Numbchaku, Sun Numbchaku
Sagiri - Splinter, Sliver, ?
Sharmista - Agneya, Asani, ?
Shigure - Rain, Hail, Hailstone
Shoon - Talons, Crazed Claw, Gold Claw
Sialeeds - Sun Chakram, Sun Chakram, ?
Sorensen - Crazy Barrel 1, Crazy Barrel 2, Crazy Barrel 3
Subala - Wave Sasumata, Moon Sasumata, Pine Wind Sasumata
Urda - Hyale, Cyrene, Callisto
Viki - Wand, Wa-Wa-Wa-Wand, Uwa-Wa-Wa-Wa-Wand
Wabon - Stone Wrench, Iron Wrench, Steel Wrench
Yahr - Neshmet, Mesektet, Manjet
Zegai - Zenki, Sojo, ?
Zerase - Shooting Star, Brilliant Star, ?
Zweig - Eruditus, Professor, Philosofs
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If anyone knows what some of the names are references to I'd be interested to know.
Alhazred: Books to do with Cthulhu
Belcoot: Names of artillery
Cathari: Fairy tales in German I think (Little Red Riding Hood, Cinderella and Snow White perhaps)
Dinn: Something to do with the Book of the Thousand Nights and a Night (Arabian Nights)
Miakis: Butterflies
Nelis: Nekhbet is the Godess of Kings/Upper Egypt, Dhwty is God of Wisdom
Roog: Dinosaurs
Yahr: Neshmet is Osiris' boat, Mesektet is Ra's night boat and Manjet is Ra's day boat.
Alhazred: Books to do with Cthulhu
Belcoot: Names of artillery
Cathari: Fairy tales in German I think (Little Red Riding Hood, Cinderella and Snow White perhaps)
Dinn: Something to do with the Book of the Thousand Nights and a Night (Arabian Nights)
Miakis: Butterflies
Nelis: Nekhbet is the Godess of Kings/Upper Egypt, Dhwty is God of Wisdom
Roog: Dinosaurs
Yahr: Neshmet is Osiris' boat, Mesektet is Ra's night boat and Manjet is Ra's day boat.
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I am on a Newgame+ so I can't help you to complete right now... I'm only at the Sacred Games
But I recall Cathari's last weapon name => Schneewittchen
If I'm not mistaken, this means "Snow ...something" in German (I'm definitely sure for Schnee, but witchen...)
Sorry but I usually speak french, and I was the weakest of the german class But I'm not sure that the "witchen" part means something, you know, because of the japanese-german (mis?)translated in english... (but maybe I just suck in german)
Also Georg's weapon is apparently the same as Suiko2's Georg. (I don't know about the attack though) Because his last weapon's name was Kumo (Cloud in japanese) in the french version of Suiko2, I don't know about the US version, but it's probably the same because Suiko2 french version is barley translated... you can even see some Italian sentences
Is it just me, or isn't there a lot of "old" returning weapons name in Suiko5 ? Like the 7-Stars Sword or the Night Bow...
Little OFF Topic
The french game probably went that way : Japanese - English - Italian - German - Portuguese - Greek - Klingon - French... That'll explain the "quality" of the translation. Also we have Suiko1 in english, Suiko2 in "french" (if we can say that), we didn't have Suiko3 (Doh !) BUT we recently have the Suiko3 mangas (sooo smart...), Suiko4 again in "french" (with english voices...) and we'll probably get an unfinished Korean version of Suiko5 with swedish voices
But I recall Cathari's last weapon name => Schneewittchen
If I'm not mistaken, this means "Snow ...something" in German (I'm definitely sure for Schnee, but witchen...)
Sorry but I usually speak french, and I was the weakest of the german class But I'm not sure that the "witchen" part means something, you know, because of the japanese-german (mis?)translated in english... (but maybe I just suck in german)
Also Georg's weapon is apparently the same as Suiko2's Georg. (I don't know about the attack though) Because his last weapon's name was Kumo (Cloud in japanese) in the french version of Suiko2, I don't know about the US version, but it's probably the same because Suiko2 french version is barley translated... you can even see some Italian sentences
Is it just me, or isn't there a lot of "old" returning weapons name in Suiko5 ? Like the 7-Stars Sword or the Night Bow...
Little OFF Topic
The french game probably went that way : Japanese - English - Italian - German - Portuguese - Greek - Klingon - French... That'll explain the "quality" of the translation. Also we have Suiko1 in english, Suiko2 in "french" (if we can say that), we didn't have Suiko3 (Doh !) BUT we recently have the Suiko3 mangas (sooo smart...), Suiko4 again in "french" (with english voices...) and we'll probably get an unfinished Korean version of Suiko5 with swedish voices
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In dutch Snow White is Sneeuwwittje. Dutch and German is very much alike so I think wittchen dous mean white.hell_tanuki wrote:"wittchen" is definitely not "white" but it's probably that because her first weapon IS Red Hood. I can guess that Snow White's name in german isn't a literal translation and that's all. Anyway thanks ^^
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So much for my spreadsheet in progress! I'll have the remaining list when I get home around 10:00 or 11:00 A.M Pacific.
Edit: A few off the top of my head . . .
Bergen - Shovel, Super Shovel, Super Duper Shovel
Cius - Lieutenant's Sword, Colonel's Sword, General's Sword
Faylon - Basher, Smasher, Clobberific
Gunny - Tarantula, Shrew, Mole
Kisara - Mooring Rope, Fortified Rope, Dahak's Rope
Lelei - same as Cius
Levi - Adder Staff, Krait Staff, Viper Staff
Lu - Puckle Bow, Eiger Bow, Gatling Bow
Lun - Kingfisher Harpoon, Tern Harpoon, Osprey Harpoon
Maroon - Wood Hammer, Hard Hammer, Beaver Hammer
Mathias - Isabel, Isabel+, Isabel ++
Meroon - Wood Nuoh, Hard Nuoh, Beaver Nuoh
Miroon - Wood Brush, Hard Brush, Beaver Brush
Moroon - Wood String, Hard String, Beaver String
Muroon - Wood Hammer, Hard Hammer, Beaver Hammer
Nakula - Grunt Spear, Oni Spear, God Spear
Norma - Lovely Baton, Ribbon Baton, Mega Baton
Raven - Rook, Carrion Crow, Nevermore
Shigure - Rain, Hail, Hailstone
Sorensen - Crazy Barrel 1, Crazy Barrel 2, Crazy Barrel 3
Subala - Wave Sasumata, Moon Sasumata, Pine Wind Sasumata
Urda - Hyale, Cyrene, Callisto
Viki - Wand, Wa-Wa-Wa-Wand, Uwa-Wa-Wa-Wa-Wand
Wabon - Stone Wrench, Iron Wrench, Steel Wrench
Edit 2: Sent the rest to KFCrispy.
Edit: A few off the top of my head . . .
Bergen - Shovel, Super Shovel, Super Duper Shovel
Cius - Lieutenant's Sword, Colonel's Sword, General's Sword
Faylon - Basher, Smasher, Clobberific
Gunny - Tarantula, Shrew, Mole
Kisara - Mooring Rope, Fortified Rope, Dahak's Rope
Lelei - same as Cius
Levi - Adder Staff, Krait Staff, Viper Staff
Lu - Puckle Bow, Eiger Bow, Gatling Bow
Lun - Kingfisher Harpoon, Tern Harpoon, Osprey Harpoon
Maroon - Wood Hammer, Hard Hammer, Beaver Hammer
Mathias - Isabel, Isabel+, Isabel ++
Meroon - Wood Nuoh, Hard Nuoh, Beaver Nuoh
Miroon - Wood Brush, Hard Brush, Beaver Brush
Moroon - Wood String, Hard String, Beaver String
Muroon - Wood Hammer, Hard Hammer, Beaver Hammer
Nakula - Grunt Spear, Oni Spear, God Spear
Norma - Lovely Baton, Ribbon Baton, Mega Baton
Raven - Rook, Carrion Crow, Nevermore
Shigure - Rain, Hail, Hailstone
Sorensen - Crazy Barrel 1, Crazy Barrel 2, Crazy Barrel 3
Subala - Wave Sasumata, Moon Sasumata, Pine Wind Sasumata
Urda - Hyale, Cyrene, Callisto
Viki - Wand, Wa-Wa-Wa-Wand, Uwa-Wa-Wa-Wa-Wand
Wabon - Stone Wrench, Iron Wrench, Steel Wrench
Edit 2: Sent the rest to KFCrispy.
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