Is this seat taken, little girl? (gender confusion)

EternalOnslaught · **Posted:** Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:21 am

Blutigengel wrote:

Heh, funny Gray, because on Senso this one member says that it says Kasios is male in some publication, and he keeps correcting everyone. I guess we'll never know

You know at Due Fiumi, the Gensopedia has stated that Kasios is a male.

Quote:

In Old Book Volume 5, Kasios' entry reads as this : Balladeer. Deeply in love with Milich, to whom she sings. This is wrong; Kasios is indeed a man. Whether he truly is in love with Milich or this is simply true and deep respect remains to be known

That is in the trivial box under Kasios Gensopedia entry. If he truly was in love with Milich, we may have found our first homosexual character who was opened about it in a book.

Antimatzist · **Posted:** Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:40 am

Might be a translation error, not surprising in a Suikoden game...

Freak · **Posted:** Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:45 am

Oh yeah, I also thought that Sasarai was a girl until Luc called him a "he"..oops. :oops:

I actually thought "so a little girl is leading the enemy army now? WTF".
And I mistook Simone for a woman. Why is there a GUY named Simone anway? That's a female name.

Blutiger Engel · **Joined:** Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:41 pm **Posts:** 328

I think it was Simeon, not Simone, but a made-up name like that can go either way. His dress-like gown didn't help, either.

Chris_Lightfellow · **Posted:** Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:42 pm

There's a Simeon and a Simone. I think what the translators did with Simone is they thought maybe they were making a French version of Simon, of course I'm just speculating though. Kind of like how Jean can be a girls' name, but it can also be a Frenchman's name.

Freak · **Posted:** Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:06 pm

Yeah, I meant the one from Suikoden II. He looked like an old lady to me.

Blutiger Engel · **Joined:** Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:41 pm **Posts:** 328

Whoops, sorry Freak (I feel weird calling someone that!), I was thinking of Simeon for whatever reason. Though I suppose he can be mistaken for a woman too. But yeah, I've never heard Simone as a male's name before, but he has a mustache, right? I never had trouble with the narcissist's genders, as they just look like old-school noblemen. Makes me think of George Washington and the other founding fathers in the US's wig days.

patapi · **Joined:** Sat Jun 12, 2004 3:55 pm **Posts:** 2454

Augustine is a female's name as well?

What's even more scary is that these early narcissists are officially assigned the indeterminate gender in publications. The Card Stories, for example.

Iesous · **Joined:** Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:44 am **Posts:** 232

Augustine is not necessarily a female name. In fact it is more famously a man's name. One of the most famous Christian theologians was a monk named Augustine.

Blutiger Engel · **Joined:** Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:41 pm **Posts:** 328

patapi wrote:

What's even more scary is that these early narcissists are officially assigned the indeterminate gender in publications. The Card Stories, for example.

Heh, I never knew that. That's kind of weird. So the developers are basically saying that they're hermaphrodites?

Matthijs · **Posted:** Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:12 pm

Having problems with alot of characters...
Dokter hu, his assistent tuta... Zamza was actually quite clear to me..£

Jeremiah Ecks · **Posted:** Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:37 pm

Soooooooo....

Is Kasios a man or what?

Maybe s/he's a hermaphrodite, and I don't mean that in any jovial way - it would happily explain the constant confusion and solves all the translation glitches. I'm happy for h/er/im to be a he-she.

I'm trying not to sound offensive at all and failing at every hurdle. Darn.

-Jeremiah Ecks,
who is going to start referencing Kasios' hermaphroditism. It works for him.

eldrasidar · **Joined:** Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:53 am **Posts:** 499

kasios is a man, a more effeminate man than some, but a man. Honestly, I've never had a single issue identifying gender in any suikoden. watch enough anime and read enough manga critically and you begin to pick up on tell tale signs of male characters and female characters that various Japanese artists use. none of them are rules set in stone, but a large presence of some as opposed to others makes it pretty clear. also, the addition of voice acting should make it especially easy(for those characters that get a line).

using names as a reference is probably a poor choice, since a lot of names either are gender neutral or have switched gender over time. Augustine, Kimberly, Kelly, Mel, Morgan, Quincy, Seneca, Simone, Taylor, are all examples of this. Other names are just plain made up so they really aren't helpful at all.

King Krimson · **Posted:** Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:22 pm

The only ones that messed me up were:

Suikoden 1 - Melodye, Kasios

Suikoden 2 - Wakaba

Suikoden 3 - None.

Suikoden 4 - Aldo for some reason.

Suikoden 5 - Shula Valya.

Sagiri · **Posted:** Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:47 pm

King Krimson wrote:

The only ones that messed me up were:

Suikoden 1 - Melodye, Kasios

Suikoden 2 - Wakaba

Suikoden 3 - None.

Suikoden 4 - Aldo for some reason.

Suikoden 5 - Shula Valya.

Aldo does look a bit feminine. I guess its the long hair and stuff. Plus the way he behaved toward Ted.

Is this seat taken, little girl? (gender confusion)

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