Rachel is from the fourth game, around 150 years prior the first game events.
She wields a weapon named Garmr --> Fenrir --> Loki
Camille also wields a weapon of the same, with the first levels named Galm (probably from the translation)
Galm --> Fenrir --> Loki
150 years gap, same weapon name, both are debt collectors.
I smelled ancestor - descendant relation.
So many characters in Suikoden series that share some sort of relation with one another, be it obvious or in small details that passes our notice at first.
I guess I kinda like to look for such relations.
BTW, I'm new here.
Camille and Rachel
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Re: Camille and Rachel
Welcome to suikosource
You'll find many relationships thoughout the entire series. That's what makes it so interesting imo.
You'll find many relationships thoughout the entire series. That's what makes it so interesting imo.
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Re: Camille and Rachel
I think Rachel was meant to be an homage to Camille (and yes, probably an ancestor). I've heard many times that IV intended to "go back to Suikoden's roots", in terms of game play and such. That homage is probably a part of that.
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If Rachel is actually Camille's ancestor, then that's one heck of long standing family traditions (debt collectors).
Not to mention a very old and rustic weapon (if its indeed the same weapon though).
Not to mention a very old and rustic weapon (if its indeed the same weapon though).
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Re: Camille and Rachel
Dont they both have the same hair as well?
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Re: Camille and Rachel
Same color. I'm not sure about the style since Camille's sprite hair is a bit hard to see. I'm sure this site has real pics, though. *Proceeds to look*
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http://www.suikosource.com/chars/list/i ... har_id=136
http://www.suikosource.com/chars/list/i ... har_id=229
not really the same style, but similar. About the same color though....
http://www.suikosource.com/chars/list/i ... har_id=229
not really the same style, but similar. About the same color though....
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Re: Camille and Rachel
You smell ancestor I smell bad storytelling. Its easier to rip your predcessors off an not get called out on it then it is to just make your own story.exo wrote:Rachel is from the fourth game, around 150 years prior the first game events.
She wields a weapon named Garmr --> Fenrir --> Loki
Camille also wields a weapon of the same, with the first levels named Galm (probably from the translation)
Galm --> Fenrir --> Loki
150 years gap, same weapon name, both are debt collectors.
I smelled ancestor - descendant relation.
So many characters in Suikoden series that share some sort of relation with one another, be it obvious or in small details that passes our notice at first.
I guess I kinda like to look for such relations.
BTW, I'm new here.
I'm a fan but I'm also a critic. Without preasure to improve stagnation is the future. Do not accept lackluster because of your enjoyment of the overall picture. Criticism is needed for improvement to be made.
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Re: Camille and Rachel
@snakebite105:
Ya, that maybe, Suikoden 4 is the worst of the series IMO.
Maybe its just a simple homage, albeit hard to notice at first.
Ya, that maybe, Suikoden 4 is the worst of the series IMO.
Maybe its just a simple homage, albeit hard to notice at first.