Question about Armored Cavalry in Suik I
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Question about Armored Cavalry in Suik I
Teo's armored cavalry is mounted on some sort of weird beast with a tail. Does anyone know the name of this animal? Also, is there a picture of this animal on Suikosource anywhere? Thanks much.
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Im pretty sure there are no actuaql pictures of them, maybe a sprite somewhere but Ive never seen one on here. A description of the horse creature your on about is on suikosource history section on Toran I think.
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Re: Question about Armored Cavalry in Suik I
They are called Gul-horses.Greywolf wrote:Teo's armored cavalry is mounted on some sort of weird beast with a tail. Does anyone know the name of this animal? Also, is there a picture of this animal on Suikosource anywhere? Thanks much.
You can see them in action if you download this movie (opening of Saturn version Suikoden 1):
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Re: Question about Armored Cavalry in Suik I
Thanks a lot. That's exactly what I needed to know.Vector Xthonic wrote:They are called Gul-horses.Greywolf wrote:Teo's armored cavalry is mounted on some sort of weird beast with a tail. Does anyone know the name of this animal? Also, is there a picture of this animal on Suikosource anywhere? Thanks much.
You can see them in action if you download this movie (opening of Saturn version Suikoden 1):
http://www.suikox.com/movies/ssopening.avi
Make sure you right click and "save link as"
Direct stream will kill my site.
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Re: Question about Armored Cavalry in Suik I
they re kinda like a sub species of the dragon horses in suik 5
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Re: Question about Armored Cavalry in Suik I
I had just assumed they were those thing you get to ride in Suikoden Tactics. It would make sense. Kooluk and the Scarlett Moon Empire neighbor each other, so maybe the animal is native to the area.
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Re: Question about Armored Cavalry in Suik I
Did no one else wonder why Teo's unit and ONLY Teo's unit had access to Gul-horses? This always bugged me, particularly since cavalry is such a major element of medieval (and Suiko) warfare.
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Re: Question about Armored Cavalry in Suik I
Well, he have the same question in S5. Why is it only the Dragon Calvarists who train Dragon Horses. Dragon Horses can run on water, and they are amazing in war, so why ONLY Dragon Calvarists?
My guess is just game mechanics. I mean, neither Teo nor the Dragon Calvarists would be nearly as cool if the gul-horses/dragon horses were bread and used everywhere. If the Queen's Knights had Dragon Horses too, the Dragon Calvarists would be... uninteresting.
My guess is just game mechanics. I mean, neither Teo nor the Dragon Calvarists would be nearly as cool if the gul-horses/dragon horses were bread and used everywhere. If the Queen's Knights had Dragon Horses too, the Dragon Calvarists would be... uninteresting.
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Re: Question about Armored Cavalry in Suik I
But the Dragon Cavalry took great lengths to ensure that only they had access to the Dragon Horses, even building one of thier strongholds (Gordius) on top of the dragon horses's breeding caves. Plus, they remained neutral (or tried to) and therefore would not allow Queen's Knights to train with the dragon horses.
Meanwhile, the Scarlet Moon Empire clearly had access to a legion of Gul-horses, yet for reason, Barbarossa decided "Only Teo gets horses, so there. Hmph." Always bugged me.
Meanwhile, the Scarlet Moon Empire clearly had access to a legion of Gul-horses, yet for reason, Barbarossa decided "Only Teo gets horses, so there. Hmph." Always bugged me.
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Re: Question about Armored Cavalry in Suik I
As for the Dragon Horses, of course Gordius went to great lengths to keep them to themselves. If you have a military advantage, you want to make sure that only you have access to it. The Dragon Horse Cavalry was not a part of the Falenan military and so they were under no obligation to give them Dragon Horses.
As for the Gul-Horses, it could simply be the fact that they require special training to ride and perhaps that there were not as many of them as we might believe. If those are the case, then it makes sense to have one army that is trained in the riding of Gul-Horses and are therefore have only one army that is in need of them. Furthermore, the fact that Teo is the only one of the generals that does not have an area which he is protecting and governing, but rather seems to be the general that gets sent out on all of the faraway missions (combating ninjas up North, fighting rebels on Lake Toran, etc.,) suggests that his army would be the one most suited to the Gul-Horses. They're the ones fighting the battles and they're the ones doing the traveling. So they're the ones who need transportation and good mounts.
As for the Gul-Horses, it could simply be the fact that they require special training to ride and perhaps that there were not as many of them as we might believe. If those are the case, then it makes sense to have one army that is trained in the riding of Gul-Horses and are therefore have only one army that is in need of them. Furthermore, the fact that Teo is the only one of the generals that does not have an area which he is protecting and governing, but rather seems to be the general that gets sent out on all of the faraway missions (combating ninjas up North, fighting rebels on Lake Toran, etc.,) suggests that his army would be the one most suited to the Gul-Horses. They're the ones fighting the battles and they're the ones doing the traveling. So they're the ones who need transportation and good mounts.
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Re: Question about Armored Cavalry in Suik I
Apparenty Gul-Horses have severe problems in terms of endurance and for that reason were never considered as serious mounts in the Scarlet Moon Empire. They're apparently tough to handle as well, so they won't be the type of mount that would be accepted widely. Teo McDohl developled his own method on how to use these beasts of burden and had tremendous success. It seems like his knowledge wasn't passed on to others though-- either that or it takes too much effort.