Solitude Rune

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Solitude Rune

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here are some old notes. i realized this formula i found is INCORRECT when i look some of the recordings, it doesn't work out. for the rest it works out, but that means there must be something wrong with the formula or my data recording O_o

*the formula i got is: CHAR_LEV + 4*WPN_LEV per person "missing" from the party.
so for total ATK value, it's STR + (weapon strength) + [(character level + 4*wpnlevel) * (6 - number in party)]
however, i'm sure they also use EXP somewhere, because that is the only thing that can cause the change in addition, like +27/+28.

??? DO 2-slot BEASTS count as 1 character, forcing 1 missing?

for 1-on-1 battles, the atk power with a solitude rune is just like when you are fighting a regular battle with the party you currently have.

so if you have 1 missing person in your party, on the 1-on-1, Riou would have that 1 person-missing bonus.



(notes)
char lev. 5, wpn lev. 3
# of other members in party/Riou's total ATK
1 / 137
2 / 116
3 / 95
4 / 74
5 / 53
(+21 per character)

char lev. 10, wpn lev. 5
# of other members in party/Riou's total ATK
1 / 179
2 / 151
3 / 124
4 / 96
5 / 69
(+27 or 28) ... +27.5

char lev. 38 (matilda... -_-), wpn lev. 5
# of other members in party/Riou's total ATK
1 / 384
2 / 325
3 / 266
4 / 206
5 / 148
(+59)

a little later....
38, 5
1 / 392
2 / 332
3 / 271
4 / 211
5 / 151
(+60 or 61) ... +60 & 1/3

38, 6
1 / 403
2 / 341
3 / 278
4 / 217
5 / 155
(+62)

39, 6
1 / 408
2 / 345
3 / 282
4 / 217
5 / 157
(+63)

41, 11 (the jump of the blacksmith skill level in kuskus is ridiculous.. it must be leftovers from the storyline change [being able to

recruit LCChan in Matilda is another])
1 / 548
2 / 464
3 / 379
4 / 295
5 / 211
(+85 or 84) +84 & 1/3

-----(end notes)------

i think the best way to figure this out will be to modify the wpn and exp levels separately. but there can definitely be other factors i'm not looking at :[
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Re: Solitude Rune

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I'll just add the answer from our PM discussion:

It appears to be: ((6 - [party members]) * 2 * ATK) / 5

Where ATK is the value with everything but the Solitude Rune taken into account, so STR, weapon power, bonuses from armor, and anything you might get from a worn Rune. I don't recall any worn Runes offhand that would affect this. Anyway, the maximum bonus is 10 * ATK / 5 (+200%) or triple your ATK without the Rune, if the hero is alone. The minimum is technically zero with a full party, but the actual minimum bonus value would be +40% ATK (2 * ATK / 5) when you have 5 people in a party. Bear in mind that the division doesn't do fractions, so the result won't round. 250.1 and 250.9 are both 250 to the game.

If you want to put it in simpler terms, you get a +40% bonus for every empty slot in the battle party, up to +200%.

Riou with 135 STR and a level 5 weapon (14 ATK) for a total of 149 ATK to start.

6 members: 149
5 members: 208
4 members: 268
3 members: 327
2 members: 387
1 member: 447

Here's the actual code as a matter of interest:

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TEXT:80088900 SolitudeBonus:                           # CODE XREF: sub_80088864+4Cj
TEXT:80088900 bne $s0, $v0, loc_80088950
TEXT:80088904 li $v0, 0x66
TEXT:80088908 jal sub_80074468 # Get count of charas in battle party.
TEXT:8008890C move $a0, $0
TEXT:80088910 lhu $a0, 0x38+var_28($sp) # Running total of ATK (str + wpn + armor + ...)
TEXT:80088914 andi $v1, $s4, 0xFFFF
TEXT:80088918 addu $a0, $v1
TEXT:8008891C li $v1, 6
TEXT:80088920 subu $v1, $v0 # 6 - #PartyMembers
TEXT:80088924 sll $v1, 1 # * 2
TEXT:80088928 mult $0, $a0, $v1 # * ATKTotal
TEXT:8008892C mflo $a0
TEXT:80088930 li $v0, 0x66666667 # Divide by 5 while avoiding an actual DIV operation
TEXT:80088938 mult $0, $a0, $v0
TEXT:8008893C sra $a0, 31 # (left over bit)
TEXT:80088940 mfhi $a3
TEXT:80088944 sra $v0, $a3, 1 # / 5
TEXT:80088948 j loc_80088968
TEXT:8008894C subu $s2, $v0, $a0 # Final bonus value
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Re: Solitude Rune

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It's a shame there's no way to acquire this rune naturally, it would be great for certain sections of the speedrun.
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Re: Solitude Rune

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Omnigamer wrote:It's a shame there's no way to acquire this rune naturally, it would be great for certain sections of the speedrun.
Or a Lv2 Riou speedrun.
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