Are L-Range attackers always succesful?

[Sasarai10]

I don't recall a L-Range attacker missing a hit,even if the enemy is at much higher level than him/her....i was fighting against the 3 pirates making them evade (not counter) and i was using L-Range attackers who were around level 18-20,and their weapons weren't ugraded,but yet they were always succesfull.


Is this confirmed?

[Pyriel]

Not remotely.

[bluemask]

Doesn't TECH affects accuracy? Plus some LUK if I'm not mistaken...?

[KFCrispy]

TECH is used for accuracy. TECH + LUK are used for critical hit chance (after it's confirmed the hit will succeed).

[bluemask]

TECH is used for accuracy. TECH + LUK are used for critical hit chance (after it's confirmed the hit will succeed).

Oooh that's it then.

But to expand Sasarai's question, is range also a factor?

[Sasarai10]

Probably.


I'm now towards the end of the game (Dragon's Fortress Arc)....and i've used every L-Ranger available in the game. I don't recall any of them fail,even if the enemy was much stronger.

ANother one question i have is about Kasumi. She is listed as a L-Ranger but she is different than the others. i mean that her attack resembles more the attack of an S or an M range weapon by approaching the enemy instead of shooting from a long distance. The only difference is that she can attack from wider range than the other S/M-rangers.


So my question is....can she counter? because L-rangers cannot counter but Kasumi seems different

[wataru14]

I think L-rangers seem to hit more because they tend to have higher Skill stats. The lowest Skill among the L-Rangers is Sarah with a Rate 3 and Eileen with a Rate 4 (which is average). All the others are higher than that, with most being Rate 6 or above. They will hit more because of their Skill.

[Sasarai10]

Yet i still don't remember Sarah and EIleen missing an attack,even against a stronger enemy

[Antimatzist]

L-range attacks can definitely miss, watch here at 22:05 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xrEOq4h4Uk Ted clearly misses a shot.

It's not about stronger enemies, but about weak characters. You'd need to bring a Level 1 L-range character to fight high level enemies to see an effect. Because, like KFCrispy said, your accurcy depends on your stats. I don't know how the chance for avoiding an attack is calculated, but I guess it has to do with TECH as well, so if your character is low level (= little TECH) and your enemy high level (=high TECH), you will see the effect.

[BrucePrintscreen]

Yet i still don't remember Sarah and EIleen missing an attack,even against a stronger enemy

Eileen is awesome, such an underrated character.

[Sasarai10]

L-range attacks can definitely miss, watch here at 22:05 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xrEOq4h4Uk Ted clearly misses a shot.

It's not about stronger enemies, but about weak characters. You'd need to bring a Level 1 L-range character to fight high level enemies to see an effect. Because, like KFCrispy said, your accurcy depends on your stats. I don't know how the chance for avoiding an attack is calculated, but I guess it has to do with TECH as well, so if your character is low level (= little TECH) and your enemy high level (=high TECH), you will see the effect.

wow....so they aren't 100% accurate at all,,,but sure they are far more accurate than S-range character like Viktor for example who could often miss even against a weaker enemy

[wataru14]

It's not about stronger enemies, but about weak characters. You'd need to bring a Level 1 L-range character

Exactlt. Try fighting the Crows outside Gregminster in the beginning of the game. They have an insanely high Evade Rate. Ted and Cleo will miss them quite often.

Eileen is awesome, such an underrated character

That she is. She's my go-to mage for most of the game.

but sure they are far more accurate than S-range character like Viktor for example who could often miss even against a weaker enemy

That has nothing to do with being Short-range. Viktor has a really terrible Skill stat (which I have decried on many MANY threads) and that is why his attacks miss.

[KFCrispy]

position/range doesn't have an effect on accuracy until Suikoden V, when you're allowed to attack from any spot in the formation.

in 1 and 2:
S range characters cannot attack if they are in the back row, and they can't hit a enemy in the back row (however, in Suikoden I, command runes like Falcon and Boar Rune ignore this rule, so Valeria and Ronnie Bell can effectively act as a back-row 100% accurate character who deals 3x dmg each round)
M range characters can attack from any position but only will target the enemy's front row
L range characters can attack from any position and hit any target

[Sasarai10]

Now i've seen it with my own eyes. Fuma missed 4 times an attack. twice against a Wyvern and twice against a Mirage