Name: Tierkreis

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Name: Tierkreis

Postby Mio » Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:39 pm

why this name?

wiki says its a german word for Zodiac

do you suppose the 108 SoD have a connection to the Zodiac signs

like say for example

the stars that compose the 12 Zodiac constellations are the 108 Stars of destiny

that was my quick assumption, did the news says different?

*pardon if this has been discussed on another thread, i did not subscribe to a 30 page thread*

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Postby KFCrispy » Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:31 pm

i would assume it's a focus on the "Stars" aspect of being a Star of Destiny. that's why a new battle feature was added called "Mark of the Star", and even in the cutscene at the beginning of the game, the main character says to the villain "we'll release every Mark of the Star (on you)."
there will be a strong focus on the gathering (or re-gathering) of the Stars in this game.

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Re: Name: Tierkreis

Postby patapi » Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:45 pm

This is pure speculation, but perhaps "Tierkreis" could have something to do with the Night Rune aka Star Dragon Sword aka Zodiac Sword? It's alleged child, Zerase, bears the unique Star Rune to boot.

That said, it's probably a representation of the 108 Stars of Destiny structure instead of the introduction of your typical Zodiac systems (be it Western, Chinese, etc).

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Re: Name: Tierkreis

Postby amelia108 » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:20 pm

Someone also pointed out in another thread that "Tierkreis" is the name of a musical composition by Stockhausen. Obviously it's still only speculation but like Rhapsodia, Tierkreis may have been chosen for musical reasons.

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Re: Name: Tierkreis

Postby Oppenheimer » Wed Oct 08, 2008 8:31 am

Have we heard if this name is being carried over to an English version? I would assume it would just be called Suikoden DS or something equally boring.

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Re: Name: Tierkreis

Postby patapi » Wed Oct 08, 2008 8:48 am

Yeah, it's confirmed. The NA trademark registration was actually the first hint that we got at this game, too.

"Suikoden Tierkreis". As usual, they drop "Gensou" from the English title.

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Postby Antimatzist » Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:14 pm

Oppenheimer wrote:Have we heard if this name is being carried over to an English version? I would assume it would just be called Suikoden DS or something equally boring.

I see "Suikoden DS" coming to Germany. Either way, I'm afraid it will get little to no attention here >.<

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Re: Name: Tierkreis

Postby Runemaster » Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:46 am

Yeah, I saw a pic of the official english cover/box art and it was "Suikoden Tierkreis".

Hmm... I wonder why not "Suikoden Zodiac".. It's cool ain't it? Or not......Oh well.
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Re: Name: Tierkreis

Postby Oppenheimer » Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:47 pm

I can see this name causing trouble:

Previously:
Me: "Do you have Suikoden V in yet? It's out today"
EBgames lackie "What five?"
Me: "Suikoden . . . S-u-i-k-o-d-e-n"
EB: *types it in* "Well, it's supposed to be out, but we don't have it yet. Try back later"
Repeat later that day

Now:
Me: "Do you have Suikoden Tierkreis in yet? It's out today"
EBgames lackie "What what?"
Me: "Suikoden . . . S-u-i-k-o-d-e-n, Tierkreis . . . T-i-e-. . ."

you get the point. *sigh*

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Re: Name: Tierkreis

Postby patapi » Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:42 pm

In that case, writing the title on paper in advance would help greatly, heh.

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Re: Name: Tierkreis

Postby Runemaster » Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:09 am

Haha

Suikoden names sure are unique for us fans. But it may also be a reason to lower its sales!

Y'know like:

Boy: to you have here a game named SooKOden?

Seller knowledgable of the right pronunciation: Nope.
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Re: Name: Tierkreis

Postby Mio » Sat Oct 18, 2008 6:56 pm

Oppenheimer wrote:I can see this name causing trouble:

Previously:
Me: "Do you have Suikoden V in yet? It's out today"
EBgames lackie "What five?"
Me: "Suikoden . . . S-u-i-k-o-d-e-n"
EB: *types it in* "Well, it's supposed to be out, but we don't have it yet. Try back later"
Repeat later that day

Now:
Me: "Do you have Suikoden Tierkreis in yet? It's out today"
EBgames lackie "What what?"
Me: "Suikoden . . . S-u-i-k-o-d-e-n, Tierkreis . . . T-i-e-. . ."

you get the point. *sigh*


i have another

Me: Do you have a copy of Suikoden Tierkreis?
EBgames lackie: What what?
Me: S-u-i-k-o-d-e-n, Tierkreis, you know, like the german word for zodiac
EBgames lackie: err...

it's like asking for trouble

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Re: Name: Tierkreis

Postby RangerDeon » Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:34 am

I don't think I know the proper pronunciation.
buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut I've never asked an employee about it, I'd usually go look or just order it online. :/

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Re: Name: Tierkreis

Postby Runemaster » Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:11 am

is it pronounced as TEER-krise???
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Re: Name: Tierkreis

Postby Georg » Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:46 am

Well.. you can hear the pronounce at the end of the TGS trailer.. it sounds kinda like "tiakrais" but we all know how the japanese use to pronounce foreign (expecially english) words :lol:


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