[Guide] Weapon Stats

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[Guide] Weapon Stats

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Hey all, sorry I've been gone, life has been busy, but I return with goodies. I'm fixing the Tactics Weapons Stats info we have on the page, as they lack the level 8 weapon levels. For those who don't know how to get a level 8 weapon, go to the Obel Ruins on a Fire day and make your way to the chamber of rage. One of the treasures inside is the Legendary Hammer, which you take to Adrienne. When you get your weapon to level 8, the name changes, and that's the one piece of information I don't yet have for every character, but I'll have it for you soon. Needta start a new game over too to see if they change names at like 4 or 5 too. Anyways, here's the info.

Kyril
Noble Rage/Noble Wrath
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
16 26 40 55 70 86 106 124

Andarc
Blade rod/Halberd Rod
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
12 22 30 45 58 72 86 100

Seneca
Honeybee/Hornet (bow)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
12 22 34 48 62 76 92 110

Corselia
Flake Rod/Splendid Rod (rod)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
8 18 28 38 48 58 68 78

Coop
Glamme (Great sword)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
18 30 46 62 78 94 110 140

Simeon
Gray Heron/Peacock (rod)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
8 18 28 38 48 58 68 78

Ornela
Great Lance/Grand Lance (spear)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
16 28 42 56 72 88 106 122

Busk
Golden Spear/Crystal Spear (spear)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
16 28 42 56 72 88 106 122

Roget
Metal Rod
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
8 18 28 38 48 58 68 78

Lalacle
Cat Fist (claw)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
15 25 40 55 70 85 105 120

Red Mercenary
Sword
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
14 24 38 50 64 80 100 115

Blue Mercenary
Spear
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
16 28 42 56 72 88 106 122

Yellow Mercenary Bow
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
12 22 34 48 62 76 92 110

Mercenary Leader
Staff
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
8 18 28 38 48 58 68 78

Akhagi
Chakram/Rippling Chakram (claw)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
10 20 32 45 57 70 84 96

Ameria
Feather Sword
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
14 24 38 45 57 70 84 96

Axel
High Sword/Grand Sword (great sword)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
28 30 46 62 78 94 110 130

Champo
Claws
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
10 20 32 45 57 70 84 96

Charlemagne
Etoile (sword)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
7 18 32 42 55 67 80 92

Dario
Wood Smasher (axe)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
16 28 42 56 70 82 95 110

Eugene
Great Spear/Supreme Spear (spear)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
16 28 42 56 72 88 106 122

Flare
Heket/Isis (bow)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
12 22 34 48 62 76 92 110

Frederica
Snake Bone Bow/Dragon Bone Bow (bow)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
12 22 34 48 62 76 92 110

Gretchen
Long Sword
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
14 24 38 50 64 80 100 115

Lazlo (or whatever name you gave him in SIV)
Twin Fang/Twin Destiny Fang (dual swords)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
14 25 40 54 68 82 97 110

Hervey
Broad Sword
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
14 24 38 50 64 80 100 115

Jeane
Rod
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
12 22 30 45 58 72 86 100

Jeremy
Lucky Blade (sword)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
14 24 38 50 64 80 100 115

Jewel
White Sword/Shimmering Sword (sword)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
14 24 38 50 64 80 100 115

Karl
Iron Fists (claws)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
10 22 34 46 58 70 82 95

Katarina
Naganara (rod)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
8 18 28 38 48 58 68 78

Kate
Black Flower (throwing knives)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
12 22 34 48 62 76 92 110

Keneth
Three Star Sword (sword)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
14 24 38 50 64 80 100 115

Kika
Deesha/Righarard (dual swords)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
14 25 40 54 68 82 97 110

Lino En Kuldes
Horus/Pharoah (spear)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
12 24 36 48 61 73 86 99

Maxine
Orb Rod/Red Orb Rod (rod)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
8 18 28 38 48 58 68 78

Millay
Brass Sword
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
14 24 38 50 64 80 100 115

Mitsuba
Stone Breaker (great sword)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
18 30 46 62 78 94 110 130

Mizuki
Damascanthus (claws)/Ardisia Crispa
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
10 20 32 45 57 70 84 96

Nalkul
One (claws)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
10 20 32 45 57 70 84 96

Nalleo
Wood Splitter (axe)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
16 28 42 56 70 82 95 110

Pablo
Sphere Rod
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
8 18 28 38 48 58 68 78

Paula
Shining Sword
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
14 24 38 50 64 80 100 115

Rachel
Garmr (spear)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
16 28 42 56 72 88 106 122

Reinbach
Rosage (rapier)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
7 18 32 42 55 67 80 92

Reinhold
Baby Bamboo Spear
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
16 28 42 56 72 88 106 122

Rita
Lovely Hammer
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
16 28 42 56 70 82 95 110

Selma
Wave-Slicing Sword/Evil-Slicing Sword (great sword)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
18 30 46 62 78 94 110 130

Sigurd
Steel Blade (throwing knives)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
12 22 34 48 62 76 92 110

Snowe
Snowe Blade
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
14 24 38 50 64 80 100 115

Tal
Baby Yellowtail (sword)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
14 24 38 50 64 80 100 115

Trishtan
Bravery/Aspiration (sword)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
14 24 38 50 64 80 100 115

Wendel
Take This! (claws)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
10 20 32 45 57 70 84 96


Snowe (kid)
Daddy Blade (sword)
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14
(does not gain ATK)

Local Boy (young Hero IV / Lazlo)
Firewood
Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 Lv5 Lv6 Lv7 Lv8
10 20 32 46 57 70 84 96
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Re: Weapon Stats Guide

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it seems Ameria's weapon numbers are wrong. i have a save with her wpn at level 8 and it's 115 ATK like the rest of the swords.
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Re: Weapon Stats Guide

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Checking on that, working (SLOWLY) through a New Game+ trying to buy everyone's weapons all the way up to cover all 3 names and all. Have nothing better to do next week (not going home for xmas) so will hopefully get more done.
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cool! i'm actually working on compiling all the characters' skills.. but don't know their upgrade SP amounts.
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Re: Weapon Stats Guide

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I have many of their skill values here...

http://www.suikosource.com/system/games/stskills.php

I'm missing some still, but most characters and skills are on there.
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Re: Weapon Stats Guide

Post by MatildaWhiteKnightLeader »

How is it possible to hone the weapons of Young Snowe and Young Lazlo way early in the game even with new game+?

Don't they run off after the initial scene and battle?
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Re: Weapon Stats Guide

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you can add them with a cheat device like Codebreaker. they have very poor stats, though, and aren't really "complete" characters.
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Re: Weapon Stats Guide

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Tal has Concentration??? O_O What for???

Characters who were in Suikoden IV will most likely have the same third weapon name as during Suikoden IV, right?
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Post by Chalryn »

Ah, good to see someone else took it upon themselves to look into these matters. Well, anyway, mind if I update this list with my own findings? I recorded everyone's Lv8 weapons' ATK values and names (as well as all three weapon names for characters exclusive to Tactics -- Busk and Ornela are the only exceptions, since they're Tactics-exclusive and you'll need a cheating device to access their lower-level weapons).

Kyril: Noble Rage/Noble Fury/Noble Wrath (Lv8: 124)

Andarc: Blade Rod/Axe Rod/Halberd Rod (Lv8: 100)

Seneca: Honeybee/Wasp/Hornet (Lv8: 110)

Corselia: Flake Rod/Petal Rod/Splendid Rod (Lv8: 78)

Coop: Glamme/Balmung/Nothung (Lv8: 130) ***Lv8 value is 130, not 140 -- also, weapon info not on character page***

Simeon: Flycatcher/Gray Heron/Peacock (Lv8: 78)

Ornela: ???/Great Lance/Grand Lance (Lv8: 122)

Busk: ???/Golden Spear/Crystal Spear (Lv8: 122)

Roget: Metal Rod/Refined Rod/Precious Rod (Lv8: 78)

Lalacle: Cat Fist/Tabby Fist/Panda Fist (Lv8: 120) ***Weapon info not on character page***

Red Mercenary: Sword/Sword/Sword (Lv8: 115) ***Weapon info not on character page***

Blue Mercenary: Spear/Spear/Spear (Lv8: 122) ***Weapon info not on character page***

Yellow Mercenary: Bow/Bow/Bow (Lv8: 110) ***Weapon info not on character page***

Mercenary Leader: Staff/Staff/Staff (Lv8: 78) ***Weapon info not on character page***

Akhagi: Chakram/Flaming Chakram/Rippling Chakram (Lv8: 96)

Ameria: Feather Sword/Wing Sword/Fallen Angel Sword (Lv8: 115) ***As pointed out above, same values as other 1-hand swords***

Axel: Sword/High Sword/Grand Sword (Lv8: 130)

Champo: Claws/Strong Claws/Wonder Claws (Lv8: 96)

Charlemagne: Etoile/Lune/Soleil (Lv8: 92)

Dario: Wood Smasher/Earth Smasher/Iron Smasher (Lv8: 110)

Eugene: Heirloom Spear/Great Spear/Supreme Spear (Lv8: 122)

Flare: Hathor/Heket/Isis (Lv8: 110)

Frederica: Bone Bow/Snake Bone Bow/Dragon Bone Bow (Lv8: 110)

Gretchen: Long Sword/War Sword/Night Sword (Lv8: 115)

Lazlo: Twin Fang/Twin Heaven Fang/Twin Destiny Fang (Lv8: 110) ***Tactics weapon info not on character page***

Hervey: Broad Sword/Bronze Sword/Blood Sword (Lv8: 115)

Jeane: Rod/Silver Rod/Crystal Rod (Lv8: 100)

Jeremy: Lucky Blade/Miracle Blade/Marvelous Blade (Lv8: 115)

Jewel: Steel Sword/White Sword/Shimmering Sword (Lv8: 115)

Karl: Iron Fists/Iron-Man's Fists/Iron-God's Fist (Lv8: 95)

Katarina: Naganara/E Naganara/Kal E Naganara (Lv8: 78)

Kate: Black Flower/Red Flower/Death Flower (Lv8: 110)

Keneth: Three-Star Sword/Four-Star Sword/Seven-Star Sword (Lv8: 115)

Kika: Deesha/Pelkent/Righarard (Lv8: 110)

Lino en Kuldes: Aten/Horus/Pharaoh (Lv8: 99)

Maxine: Crescent Rod/Orb Rod/Red Orb Rod (Lv8: 78)

Millay: Brass Sword/Iron Sword/Platinum Sword (Lv8: 115)

Mitsuba: Stone Breaker/Iron Breaker/Platinum Breaker (Lv8: 130)

Mizuki: Damnacanthus/Citrus Tachibana/Ardisia Crispa (Lv8: 96)

Nalkul: One/Two/Three (Lv8: 96)

Nalleo: Wood Splitter/Earth Splitter/Iron Splitter (Lv8: 110)

Pablo: Sphere Rod/Flash Rod/Nova Rod (Lv8: 78)

Paula: Light Sword/Shining Sword/Elven Sword (Lv8: 115)

Rachel: Garmr/Fenrir/Loki (Lv8: 122)

Reinbach: Rosage/Marguerite/Orchidees (Lv8: 92)

Reinhold: Baby Bamboo Spear/Bamboo Spear/Aged Bamboo Spear (Lv8: 122)

Rita: Lovely Hammer/Ribbon Hammer/Mega Hammer (Lv8: 110)

Selma: Wind-Slicing Sword/Wave-Slicing Sword/Evil-Slicing Sword (Lv8: 130)

Sigurd: Steel Blade/Sheen Sword/Golden Blade (Lv8: 110)

Snowe: Snowe Blade/Snowe Blade/Snowe Blade (Lv8: 115) ***Tactics weapon info not on character page***

Tal: Baby Yellowtail/Young Yellowtail/Juvenile Yellowtail (Lv8: 115)

Trishtan: Spirit/Bravery/Aspiration (Lv8: 115)

Wendel: Take This!/Run For Your Life!/You Scumbag! (Lv8: 96)



By the way, I'm not trying to be demanding or anything in pointing out that weapon info is missing from character pages. Just pointing it out to keep track of characters' weapons that aren't covered on the site (yet).
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Thanks! It is something we'll have to work on in the future.. no ETA!
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Re: [Guide] Weapon Stats

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added some missing info but i need to figure out how to get level 8 values and the 3rd weapon name into the database.
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all weapon info has been updated into the Characters pages. thanks! we don't have a single page view for the weapons right now so i'll leave this stickied.
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Re: [Guide] Weapon Stats

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Celes is currently working on the runeslot guide. Afterwards weapon guide and stat growth guide might follow.
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