Female Tenkai

ninjaluc79 · Post by **ninjaluc79** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:32 am

Do you think Pilika could be a worthy candidate? I think her age at that time would be like 20 or something like that.

Falenan_descent · Post by **Falenan_descent** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:00 pm

She's definately a candidate to be in a future suikoden. Jowy probobly left Pilika and Jilia with a lot of money. I'm also sure Jilia would have adopted Pilika as her daughter, sent her off to school, and Pilika would be involved in politics or something to that effect...

Sun of a Studio · Post by **Sun of a Studio** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:44 pm

Yeah despite apparently everyone elses beliefs, I don't want to play a video game as a chick. Something about being a guy and not having this whole, not wanting to grow up to be Rahal thing. Joel's idea would work, choosing a gender, but I don't want to play a Suikoden soley from a girls perspective. Say what you want, it's just my preference.

thecontrivance · Post by **thecontrivance** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:34 pm

I am just throwing this out there, but if the next Tenkai was Laknaat and they tell her story. She could have been a Tenkai way back when and had another true rune "the True Phero" which made people around her atracted to her physical and mental beauty. Of course she was younger and more like a good lookin' teenager.

NO nevermind scratch that.

She has the Gate Rune but must oppose Windy and some country. It would also have the mystiries of other characters revieled like:

1) Pesmerga-Yuber.......
2)The Gate Clan and its destruction......
3) Hikasuuk.......
4)THat original vampire lady(who supposidely is married to Nash), and her background.......
5)Crowley(BIG PART OF THE GAME)........
6)Viki.......
7)Jeane.....

yeah, but Leknaat(in her younger years) is the only girl in Suikoden that I would see as a ligitimate tenkai.

Hey! Maybe she could be the original Tenkai...........

lucreborn · Post by **lucreborn** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:44 pm

Sun of a Studio wrote:Yeah despite apparently everyone elses beliefs, I don't want to play a video game as a chick. Something about being a guy and not having this whole, not wanting to grow up to be Rahal thing. Joel's idea would work, choosing a gender, but I don't want to play a Suikoden soley from a girls perspective. Say what you want, it's just my preference.

Well alot of great rpgs have females as the lead role. So it wont be long before konami makes a female lead for suikoden. Its not like it will kill you if you play as a girl? Will it make you sissy no.... will everyone laugh at you no.... will you miss out on one heck of a game yes... weather its female or male just play it dont give up on it

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Rezard · Post by **Rezard** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:18 pm

Do you think that a male lead = female lead? If thatÂ´s true, then this topic doesnÂ´t make sense, whatever will do just fine.

I donÂ´t know if I would like to see a female lead acting like a male.

Night · Post by **Night** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:08 pm

Rezard wrote:Do you think that a male lead = female lead? If thatÂ´s true, then this topic doesnÂ´t make sense, whatever will do just fine.

I donÂ´t know if I would like to see a female lead acting like a male, like swinging a gigantic hammer around. Cris would be fine female lead, she is phsycally strong, but doesnÂ´t act like a male. Hanna, on the other hand, is female just in gender.

Why does a female lead have to act like a male? None of the male leads we've had so far have been "swinging a gigantic hammer around." I don't understand what you mean when you ask if male lead female lead. It's just a lead role, full stop, and doesn't need to be ascribed to any gender.

Rezard · Post by **Rezard** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:16 pm

I couldnâ€™t express myself clearly, I was just trying to understand what the difference between male and female leads, because just seems to doesnâ€™t matter at all. Do you want a female lead just to be fair to female players?

lucreborn · Post by **lucreborn** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:50 am

[qoute]Do you think that a male lead = female lead? If thatÂ´s true, then this topic doesnÂ´t make sense, whatever will do just fine.

I donÂ´t know if I would like to see a female lead acting like a male.[/quote]

Never said anything about a male lead = a female lead....I just said if it is a female why ridicule something like that. Its not like a female would kill or destroy the gameplay, it would play the same. And the topic of this post is "Female tenkai"? So why doesnt it make sence? Im just explaining that a female character would not bother me and that sun of a studio shouldnt mind if its a girl or not

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And no i dont want it to be a girl to be fair to girl players, im just saying that a female lead will not effect my love for suikoden.

Falenan_descent · Post by **Falenan_descent** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:19 am

And no i dont want it to be a girl to be fair to girl players, im just saying that a female lead will not effect my love for suikoden.

Why not? Its not like the main character says much anyway. But why everyone wants to see a girl is mostly...

1) The weapon
2) Her great looks
3) The way everyone would treat a woman differently from a political POV
4) What her true rune would be.

Personally, I'd love to see how a woman would handle her issues.

Jowy Atreides · Post by **Jowy Atreides** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:01 am

Falenan_descent wrote:1) The weapon

Women and men can use all weapons with equal efficiency.

2) Her great looks

Who cares?

3) The way everyone would treat a woman differently from a political POV

That depends on the country.

4) What her true rune would be.

Gender doesn't matter here.

Personally, I'd love to see how a woman would handle her issues.

She wouldn't "handle her issues" any differently because we'd be in control.

We've already had a female lead, and the game wasn't substantially different.

Post by **Oppenheimer** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:37 am

Jowy Atreides wrote:I guess I wouldn't mind a female protagonist (not Tenkai, to avoid people saying "but Chris wasn't a Tenkai!!"), but there's already been a female lead, and it wasn't that different from playing as a dude, since she wasn't very "girly".

There was a slight difference in that her knights were often hitting on her and trying to get her to settle down, if memory serves. But generally speaking she wasn't that different from her male counterparts.

Night · Post by **Night** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:42 pm

Jowy Atreides wrote:
3) The way everyone would treat a woman differently from a political POV
I would imagine that a politician would treat a woman equally, from a political standpoint. I don't understand this one.

Not necessarily. Like it or not, there are differences in the way people react to different genders. It can also change the path a game storyline takes. If, for example, they had reversed the roles of HeroV and Lym (so Lym was older and was the Tenkai) then everyone would have reacted differently to her, because being a female heir was so much more important in Falena.

However, by and large the Suiko universe doesn't seem to have an awful lot of sexism in it (bar the dragon knights). So there is potential for a different perspective from a different gender, but they seem to be moving away from such a possibility so far.

Jowy Atreides · Post by **Jowy Atreides** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:10 pm

Suikoden V is the only one where gender plays a large role.

Casting Lymsleia as the hero wouldn't be a good idea, because she was one of the priority targets.

Playing as Chris wasn't much different than playing as a man.

Falenan_descent · Post by **Falenan_descent** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:53 pm

Jowy Atreides

I don't understand you.

What I'm getting at is what Konami chooses to portray as their first female Tenkai, assuming they'll put one in.

Will they make her a soft, reflective character like Eileen and give her a staff/bo?

Would they make her into a wild, axe-wielding barbarian like Gretchen? A weapon someone chooses to wield says a lot about their character. A huge Tinto warrior would seem out of place carrying around books as a weapon like Nina.

Again, the looks, the same as the weapon. If the next game were to take place in New Armes she'd be supporting a really nifty far eastern outfit. Or, if she was harmonion, possibly a tunic.

As for the way a woman would be treated from a political POV. You said she'd be treated equally? I highly doubt it. Unless you're in Falena or Muse you don't see too many women running around as leaders of countries or armies. Anabelle and Arshtat were two examples where women had the hot seat. And not only that! Look what happened to them! But, in places like Tinto it seems more masculine dominated. It is more common for women to be seen in general positions on the battlefield like Sonya, Chris, or even Cecile.

As we know there are 27 true runes. There are still many to be displayed and I think if they applied a good rune for their first female Tenkai it would make the game seem more interesting. Try making the Beast Rune inflict the same insanity that Luca Blight had on his evil twin-sister alter-ego Madonna *rolls eyes*

We'll be making the choices for her

Yes, that's true. But, what I was getting at there is what two-three options that we'd get to choose from. So, we would get to see the different ways she could handle certain situations. In Suikoden II, Riou was either loud and in charge or quiet and reserved.

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Female Tenkai

Just throwing this out there