Global Suikoden ~formerly "Is it possible to have"

shinro-kun · Post by **shinro-kun** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:09 am

Is it possible to have a suikoden that'll take you everywhere? okay, not exactly everywhere. I mean look at 2. the story took you to so many places.

so is it possible for a suikoden sequel to take you to dunan, grassland, harmonia, falena, toran, etc. to progress in the story? a mean a really really Really long rpg game. just like a long anime series with so many arcs...

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Lemmy Claypool · Post by **Lemmy Claypool** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:47 am

Possible, yes. Likely? I don't really know...perhaps once we've seen the whole Suikoworld?

KoyuRedd · Post by **KoyuRedd** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:32 am

shinro-kun wrote:Is it possible to have a suikoden that'll take you everywhere? okay, not exactly everywhere. I mean look at 2. the story took you to so many places.

so is it possible for a suikoden sequel to take you to dunan, grassland, harmonia, falena, toran, etc. to progress in the story? a mean a really really Really long rpg game. just like a long anime series with so many arcs...

Edit by Oppenheimer: Please make your title show what the body of the thread is going to be about and not part of a sentance. Thanks.

Definitely possible. If Konami uses PS2 graphics on the PS3 (deny the use of very detailed graphics as expected) it will be possible for every known location to fit in one game.

But maybe this will come with the arrival of a later PS, or maybe just a more spacious disc... (estimated PS3 disc space = 25 - 50 GB)

shinro-kun · Post by **shinro-kun** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:56 pm

imagine them using suiko2 graphics on ps3 (very unlikely). that'll take you everywhere in the suiko world!

MatildaWhiteKnightLeader · Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:42 pm

and imagine not being able to use viki for the early parts of the game. Endless walking/sailing...

KoyuRedd · Post by **KoyuRedd** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 9:59 am

MatildaWhiteKnightLeader wrote:and imagine not being able to use viki for the early parts of the game. Endless walking/sailing...

True, but they can always make an option that allows you to choose between free-roaming and location-selection. It saves a lot of time.

LGM · Post by **LGM** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:28 am

I believe that the mark of a good game is the balance between size of the game, and conciseness of the gameplay.

In Suiko 4, without a guide or a map, I bet you could of end up travelling around the sea for hours. And there is something to be said for opening up areas at certain points in the game, even if its just to increase the difficulty level. Be honest; no matter where you went in Suiko 4, the enemies all had a similar difficulty level.

The only way to use the 'whole' suiko world, is to give the player a limited path in which they can travel. Otherwise its just the same thing the whole game through.

Fudce · Post by **Fudce** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:00 pm

LGM wrote:I believe that the mark of a good game is the balance between size of the game, and conciseness of the gameplay.

In Suiko 4, without a guide or a map, I bet you could of end up travelling around the sea for hours. And there is something to be said for opening up areas at certain points in the game, even if its just to increase the difficulty level. Be honest; no matter where you went in Suiko 4, the enemies all had a similar difficulty level.

The only way to use the 'whole' suiko world, is to give the player a limited path in which they can travel. Otherwise its just the same thing the whole game through.

Agreed, when I first played Suikoden 4, I completely missed the first island, it was just out of sight, and when I eventually hit the glass wall that stops you from travelling too far, I realised 'Oh dear, this isn't good'.

ShardStar · Post by **ShardStar** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:09 pm

That's not nessarly true. I remeber some games where I was allowed to wander in some of the DW games for instance. I would be going along fighting simple enemies like slimes, then I cross a bridge and suddenly it's a fight to the death from a Drake which I am not ready to face. I think an whole world concept could work if done properly. I'm of the school of "Save alot and save often" which is why I make like ten saves of Suikoden while playing lol. Just in case I have to go back, old Sierra game habit.

They can isolate areas like they did in the first two Suikoden's having guards preventing you passage, then certain terrains could be impassible until later. It all depends on the reason why you can't go there but you can go elsewhere.

Maas Stormgripper · Post by **Maas Stormgripper** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:19 am

It's certainly possible to make a game so large in scope. But ...there's a reason that most worlds in RPG's are so small, time constraints, story points, redundant designs and such.

It would be an exhausting and time consuming game to give us every city, town, and provence to play with. Sure the hardcore fans among us would squeal with joy for being able to access the two kobold villages, but would anyone else care?

Ofcourse, I dream of it none the less.

shinro-kun · Post by **shinro-kun** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:10 am

they would still have fun with it.

what i'm talking about actually, is that you can go anywhere. but not exactly that you have to go everywhere. i mean, for example, a good 20 hours of story progressing in toran. then you're taken to dunan having about 10 hours of story progressing. then to harmonia, then back to toran, then to grasslands or wherever.

a game with a really long gameplay/time is what i'm talking about.

Post by **Oppenheimer** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:03 pm

I think the game would be attacked as being a rehash if it were to only use old places rather than create some new ones. Besides for nostalgic reasons do you really think that you'd want to walk through the bandit hideout caves from Suikoden I, or the forest of Greenleaf academy again with different characters? I don't think that'd be too terribly exciting. Like I said, nostalgia is nice, but I like the series to constantly be moving forward.

Silvermouse · Post by **Silvermouse** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:53 pm

If they were ever going to use the entire Suiko world, I'd rather see it in MMO form. Having the entire world in one console rpg just for the sake of it might lead to "hurried" storytelling where you jump from place to place so quickly that you forget where you just were.

Tsubaki · Post by **Tsubaki** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:16 pm

I think it should be in the last suikoden because it would be a huge game and a huge war so it would be exellent, and to revisit all the old places and see how they have all changed and stuff it would be great.

If they made it an Online RPG that would be rubbish it would ruin Suikodens good name.

Harmonian Zealot · Post by **Harmonian Zealot** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:11 pm

Considering how big and elaborate Harmonia is; That would be half of the game disc right there.

Would this include the mysterious Western Continent?

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