Sasarai10 wrote:you cannot beat up the ice dragon (probably the most difficult suikoden ever) from S3,in one turn whilst your characters are level 55 or so...
not sure this would be difficult with a full party or possibly 4-5 characters. Nei (Jeane as support allows it to activate faster) and 2 powerful attacks should do the job, or just 3 good attacks, especially if the characters are level 55 - almost all rune slots for all characters will be open by then.Punkaiser wrote:You wanna see me do that? I will need just 3 party members plus Chris as FC to destroy the dragon and all the shards.
If the goal is to kill only the dragon, then I would need just Chris as FC plus 2 other members.
I think the only limit is what runes you want to allow in the setup.
Fury: Of course you can farm for Fury Runes (Hugo chapter 2 and anytime in Mt. Hei-Tou).
Double-Strike: It was possible for Hugo to farm Double-Strike Runes from the Shadow Dog area boss early but I'm sure it would be tough to farm from such an infrequent enemy, but you can get it as a random item from the Mt. Hei-Tou treasure boss if you spend time on it (nice treasure here--Earth Magic Ring, Taikyoku Tunic, Double-Strike Rune, some antique).
Warrior: It's possibly a drop from Nemesis in Mt. Senai, and Geddoe has access to it in Chapters 2-3. You might have access to it in Chapter 4 before heading to Water Dragon.
So assuming you get enough of these runes, you're all set.
The Water Dragon has 9000 HP, Ice Pillars have 2500 HP. do you want to take out all targets or just the Water Dragon?
-A Mounted unite from Joe and Shabon can probably take out the Ice Pillars, and if it doesn't, using Jongleur would definitely boost it high enough
-The Condemnation unite with Landis and Ayame just need Double-Strikes on each.
-Augustine alone can deal high damage with Red Rose but I don't think he can boost his swing to S (you might have just 1 White Rose Brooch, but it's supposedly a rare item in Caleria in chapter 4-5).
-Mel's damage range is extremely random but she can also do crazy damage with Devil's Doll
-The Child Unite with Melville and Alanis is also very powerful thanks to their 5 free rune slots.
Jeane as support makes Jongleur activate before all or most of these attacks.
You will have access to Jefferson and all or most of the Medals for some nice appointments if necessary.