[Guide] Treasure Bosses Compilation (in progress)

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Re: [Guide] Treasure Bosses Compilation (in progress)

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So, to add to this... this is the data from the ELF file (with PNACH codes included) as to what the bosses drop, if the item is one time only, and what the odds of the given item "sets" are for each boss...

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1shO ... sp=sharing
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Re: [Guide] Treasure Bosses Compilation (in progress)

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Very awesome. I'll try to compile it into something more easily legible
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Re: [Guide] Treasure Bosses Compilation (in progress)

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Alright, so I went ahead and did that. It's still a work in progress though. Using save states, I've given every treasure boss up through chapter 4 about a hundred runs. Some many times more than that, trying to confirm the repeatable items, since I couldn't quite decipher that from ronnen's chart. I didn't care so much about the junk items or items that could be bought, so I marked all of the ones that perhaps somebody else could confirm. I'll continue checking through the chapter 5 treasure bosses as I have time.

Just as an example, I probably beat down the BlueMantik a good 500 times trying to stockpile Double-Strike runes early, and I only found 4 Earth Magic Rings and 4 Taikyoku Tunics. Azzodess was equally as stubborn with Fire Magic Rings for me. This could have been bad luck, or maybe the item is just that rare. Which is why I'm uncomfortable confirming anything as a one time item even after 100 kills. Unfortunately, this process is mind numbing after a period of time.

Sorted by confirmed one time items, consumables, antiques, then equips.

Cyndar Ruins Treasure Boss – Copper Sun (Chapter 5)
? Statue (Dragon Statue S)*
Recipe #17*
Mega Medicine A x4
Mega Medicine C x4
Mega Medicine D x4
? Statue (Hex Doll)
Armor of Rage
Bandana
Blessed Armor
BlessedChainMail
Blessed Helm
Blessed Robe
Blood Armor (Very Rare)
Champion's Rune (Very Common)

Chief's Hat
CustomChainMail
Custom Helm
Custom Robe
DamagedChainMail
Damaged Helm
Damaged Robe
Damaged Tunic
Earth Shield (Very Rare)
Fine Armor
Fine Helm
Fine Tunic
Gloves
Iron Boots
Iron Heel Shoes
Iron Shield
New Tunic
Ninja Suit
Pointed Hat
Power Gloves
Premier Armor
Premier Helm
Prosperity Hat
Robe of Destiny
Silver Robe
Silver Shield
TrueByakkoChnMl
Wooden Shield
Worn-Out Helm
Worn-Out Robe
Worn-Out Tunic
Wizard Hat

Flame Champion's Hideaway Treasure Boss – Azzodess (Chapter 3)
Stone of Power*
Mega Medicine B x4
Mega Medicine C x4
Mega Medicine D x4
? Painting (Ruins) (Missable)
Bandana
Belt of Strength
BlessedChainMail
BlckWarriorTunic
Blessed Leather
Blessed Robe
Custom Tunic
Damaged Armor
Damaged Tunic
Feather Band
Fine Armor
Fine Helm
Fine Tunic
Fire Magic Ring (Very Rare, Missable)
Great Hawk Rune
Iron Shield
Kite Rune
Kite Shield
Lightning Leather
New Armor
New Chain Mail
New Helm
New Robe
New Tunic
Old Helm
OldLgtngLeather
Old Silver Robe
PremierChainMail
Silver White Robe
Stone of Evasion (100% repeatable drop after Stone of Power)
Sword of Cyclone Rune
ThndrboltLeather
Thunder Runner x1
Tulip Hat
Water Amulet
Water Rune
Wind Hat
Wind Rune
Wooden Shield
Worn-Out Armor
Worn-Out Helm
Worn-Out Tunic

Flame Champion's Hideaway Treasure Boss – Nemesis (Chapter 4/5)
Mega Medicine B x4
Mega Medicine C x4
Mega Medicine D x4
Thunder Runner x1
Bandana
Belt of Strength
BlckWarriorTunic
BlessedChainMail
Blessed Helm
Blessed Robe
Custom Casque
Custom Tunic
Damaged Armor
Damaged Tunic
Feather Band
Fine Armor
Fine Casque
Fine Helm
Fine Tunic
New Armor
New Casque
New Chain Mail
New Helm
New Robe
New Tunic
OldByakkoChnMl
Old Chain Mail
Old Helm
Old Silver Robe
PremierChainMail
Premier Casque
Silver White Robe
Tulip Hat
Water Amulet
Wind Hat (One Time?)
Worn-Out Armor
Worn-Out Casque
Worn-Out Helm
Worn-Out Tunic
Yellow Scarf

Mt. Hei-Tou Treasure Boss – BlueMantik (Chapter 1/2/3/4/5)
Medal Set #3*
Melon Seeds*
Old Book Vol. 12*

Medicine A x6
Mega Medicine B x4
Mega Medicine C x4
Mega Medicine D x4
? Figurine (Gentian Vase)
? Figurine (Plum Bonsai)
? Painting (Sunset)
Bandana
Blessed Casque
Blessed Leather
Blinking Rune
Byakko Chain Mail
Chaos Shield
Counter Rune
Damaged Armor
Damaged Casque
Damaged Robe
Damaged Tunic
Double-Strike Rune
Earth Magic Ring (Very Rare)
Feather Band
Fine Armor
Fine Casque
Fine Leather
Fine Tunic
Fine Robe
Gloves
Gold Beak
Killer Rune
Kite Shield
Lightning Leather
New Armor
New Chain Mail
New Robe
Old Chain Mail
Old Flame Armor
OldLgtngLeather
Old Robe
Old Tunic
Patched Leather
Premier Armor
Star Pierce
Taikyoku Tunic (Very Rare)
Tulip Hat
Turtle Tunic
Wall Rune
Wooden Shield
Worn-Out Casque

Mountain Path Treasure Boss – Rock Golem (Chapter 1/2/3)
Beautiful Kennel*
Blood Armor*
Stone of Magic*
? Statue (Hex Doll S)*

Mega Medicine B x4
Mega Medicine C x4
Mega Medicine D x4
? Figurine (Plum Bonsai)
? Statue (Hex Doll)
Blessed Armor
Blessed Casque
Boots
GuardianChnMl
Damaged Helm
Damaged Leather
Earth Rune
Fine Armor
Fine Casque
Fine Chain Mail
Fine Leather
Gauntlet
Goss Rune
Iron Shield
Kite Shield
Leather Pumps
LgtngMagicRing (Surprisingly Common)
New Armor
New Chain Mail
New Helm
New Leather
New Robe
New Tunic
Old Armor
OldByakkoChnMl
Old Chain Mail
Old Casque
Old Helm
Old Silver Robe
Old Tunic
OldTurtleTunic
Patched Leather
Premier Leather
Silver Robe
Titan Rune
Throat Drops x4
Worn-Out Tunic

Mountain Path Treasure Boss – Ghost Knight (Chapter 4)
Stone of Speed*
Drain Rune*
Resistance Ring*

Mega Medicine B x4
Mega Medicine C x4
Mega Medicine D x4
Berserk Blow x1
Soaring Bolt x1
? Painting (Lady)
? Painting (Sunset)
Balance Rune (Missable)
Blessed Armor
Blessed Casque
Blessed Leather
Blessed Robe
Custom Armor
Damaged Armor
Damaged Casque
Damaged Leather
Feather Band
Fine Chain Mail
Fine Helm
Fine Leather
Fine Robe
Fury Rune
Gauntlet
Haziness Rune
New Armor
New Casque
New Chain Mail
New Robe
New Tunic
Old Armor
OldByakkoChnMl
Old Chain Mail
Old Helm
OldLgtngLeather
Old Robe
Old Silver Robe
Old Tunic
Patched Leather
Pointed Hat
Premier Casque
Premier Helm
Premier Robe
Skunk Rune
TrueByakkoChnMl
Tulip Hat
Turtle Tunic
Violence Rune
Winged Boots
Worn-Out Tunic

Mountain Path Treasure Boss – Twin Snake (Chapter 5)
Rage Rune*
Recipe #20*

Mega Medicine A x4
Mega Medicine B x4
Mega Medicine C x4
Mega Medicine D x4
Clay Guardian x1
Kindness Drops x1
Vengeful Child x1
? Figurine (Calerian Urn)
? Figurine (Plant Vase)
? Painting (Scroll Picture)
Blessed Armor
BlessedChainMail
Blessed Helm
Blessed Leather
Blessed Robe
Blessed Tunic
Crown of Destiny
Custom Robe
Damaged Armor
Damaged Helm
Damaged Leather
Damaged Tunic
Dragon Scale (One Time?)
DragonTailOrnmt
Dream Robe (One Time? Hasn't shown up yet.)
Earth Shield (One Time?)
Fine Armor
Fine Casque
Fine Chain Mail
Fine Robe
Flame Casque (One Time?
Iron Shield
Kite Shield
Mole Shield
New Helm
New Leather
New Tunic
OldByakkoChnMl
Old Flame Armor
OldLgtngLeather
Old Silver Robe
Patched Leather
Pointed Hat
Power Gloves
Premier Casque
PremierChainMail
Premier Tunic
Silver Hat
Silver White Robe
Star Pierce
Wizard Hat
Wooden Shield
Worn-Out Armor
Worn-Out Casque

Mt. Senai Treasure Boss – Nemesis (Chapter 2/3/4)
? Statue (Goddess Statue S)*
Custom Casque*
Custom Leather*
Custom Tunic*
Hunter Rune*
Stone of Skill*

Mega Medicine B x4
Mega Medicine C x4
Mega Medicine D x4
? Statue (Peeing Boy)
Blessed Casque
Blessed Helm
Blessed Leather
Blessed Robe
Blessed Tunic
Byakko Chain Mail
Damaged Casque
Fine Helm
Fine Robe
Firefly Rune
Lightning Amulet
Mangosh (All sources dry up after Chapter 4)
Master Garb (All sources dry up after Chapter 4)
New Casque
New Chain Mail
New Helm
New Leather
New Robe
OldByakkoChnMl
Old Casque
Old Chain Mail
Old Helm
Old Leather
Old Silver Robe
Pointed Hat
Premier Tunic
Robe of Destiny (One Time?)
Silver Hat
Sun Badge
Tulip Hat
Turtle Tunic
Waking Rune
Warrior Rune
Winged Boots

Mt. Senai Treasure Boss – Ghost Knight (Chapter 5)
Script #6* (Suikoden II Data Required)
Recipe #18*
Stone of Mag-Def*

Mega Medicine A x4
Mega Medicine C x4
Mega Medicine D x4
? Figurine (Gold Urn)
? Figurine (Rose Vase)
? Figurine (White Por Vase)
Armor of Rage
BlckWarriorTunic
Blessed Armor
Blessed Casque
Blessed Leather
Blessed Robe
Chain Attack Ring (One Time?)
Chaos Shield
Chief's Hat
Custom Casque
CustomChainMail
Custom Leather
Damaged Casque
DamagedChainMail
Damaged Helm
Damaged Leather
Damaged Robe
Earth Rune
Feather Band
Fine Armor
Fine Chain Mail
Fine Helm
Fine Robe
Fine Tunic
Fire Rune
Flame Amulet
Horned Helm (One Time?)
Iron Boots
Iron Fist
Iron Shield
Kite Shield
Lightning Leather
Lightning Rune
New Chain Mail
New Tunic
Old Flame Armor
Old Helm
Pale Moon Leather (Very Rare)
PremierChainMail
Premier Helm
Premier Robe
Silver Hat
Sword of Rage Rune
Turtle Tunic
Wind Rune
Worn-Out Armor

North Cavern Treasure Boss – Magician (Chapter 1 Thomas/2 Thomas)
Dancing Flames x1
Kindness Drops x1
Thunder Runner x1
? Figurine (Celadon Urn)
? Figurine (Mini-Cactus)
Alertness Rune
Bandana
Boots
Damaged Armor
DamagedChainMail
Damaged Helm
Damaged Tunic
Earth Rune
Feather Band
Feather Earrings
Gauntlet
Iron Shield
Kite Shield
Medicine A
Medicine B
Medicine C
Medicine D
Mole Helm
New Robe
New Tunic
Old Armor
OldByakkoChnMl
Old Chain Mail
Old Flame Armor
Old Helm
Old Leather
OldLgtngLeather
Old Robe
Old Silver Robe
Old Tunic
Patched Leather
Pointed Hat
Sandals
Sunbeam Rune
Tulip Hat
Turtle Tunic
Waking Rune
Wind Rune
Wooden Shield
Wooden Shoes
Worn-Out Armor
Wrn-OutChainMail
Worn-Out Helm
Worn-Out Robe

North Cavern Treasure Boss – Chimera (Chapter 2 Chris & Geddoe/3 Hugo)
Castle Kennel*
Herb Seeds*
Medal Set #5*
Mother Earth Rune*
Old Book Vol. 11*
Script #3*
Mega Medicine A x4*

Mega Medicine B x4
Mega Medicine C x4
Mega Medicine D x4
? Painting (Knight)
? Painting (SkyOwl)
Blazing Wall x1
Blessed Casque
Blessed Helm
Blessed Tunic
Boots
Byakko Chain Mail
Damaged Casque
DamagedChainMail
Damaged Leather
Damaged Tunic
Dancing Flames x1
Feather Band
Feathered Hat
Fine Leather
Fine Robe
Fine Tunic
Fish Badge
Gloves of Destiny
Guardian Casque
Lightning Leather
Mangosh (All sources dry up after Chapter 4)
New Helm
New Robe
OldByakkoChnMl
Old Casque
Old Helm
Old Leather
OldLgtngLeather
Old Tunic
Pointed Hat
Premier Casque
Star Pierce
Sun Badge
Wrn-OutChainMail
Worn-Out Helm

North Cavern Treasure Boss – Stone Golem (Chapter 3 Chris & Geddoe)
? Statue (Knight Statue S)*
Old Book Vol. 11*
Custom Leather*

Mega Medicine B x4
Mega Medicine C x4
Mega Medicine D x4
? Statue (Goddess Statue)
? Statue (Knight Statue)
Blessed Casque
BlessedChainMail
Blessed Helm
Blessed Robe
Blessed Tunic
Byakko Chain Mail
Feather Earrings
Fine Armor
Fine Chain Mail
Fine Leather
Flame Armor
Iron Heel Shoes
Leather Pumps
New Casque
New Helm
Ninja Suit
Old Armor
Old Flame Armor
OldLgtngLeather
Old Silver Robe
Pale Moon Casque
Patched Leather
Premier Casque
PremierChainMail
Premier Helm
Premier Tunic
Robe Of Mist (One Time?)
ThndrboltLeather
Turtle Tunic
White Rose Brooch
Worn-Out Casque
Wrn-OutChainMail
Worn-Out Robe

North Cavern Treasure Boss – Ghost Knight (Chapter 4/5)
? Statue (Knight Statue S)*
Old Book Vol. 11*
Stone of Luck*

Mega Medicine B x4
Mega Medicine C x4
Mega Medicine D x4
? Statue (Goddess Statue)
? Statue (Knight Statue)
Blessed Casque
BlessedChainMail
Blessed Helm
Blessed Robe
Blessed Tunic
Byakko Chain Mail
Counter Rune
Custom Leather
Engraved Gauntlet
Feather Earrings
Fine Armor
Fine Chain Mail
Fine Leather
Fire Rune
Flame Armor
Gale Rune (Very Rare. Hasn't shown up yet.)
Iron Heel Shoes
Leather Pumps
Lightning Rune
Medicine Rune
New Casque
New Helm
Ninja Suit
Old Armor
Old Chain Mail
Old Flame Armor
Old Helm
OldLgtngLeather
Old Silver Robe
Pale Moon Casque
Patched Leather
PremierChainMail
Premier Helm
Premier Tunic
Robe of Mist (One Time?)
ThndrBoltLeather
Turtle Tunic
WhiteRoseBrooch
Wizard Rune
Worn-Out Casque
Worn-Out Robe
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Re: [Guide] Treasure Bosses Compilation (in progress)

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Do I just have astoundingly bad luck or can you not get Fire Magic Rings from Chris's Chapter 3 Azzoddess? I fought it upwards of 10 times and didn't get one any of the times. I had no problem getting them with Geddoe.
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you can get multiple Fire Magic Rings with anybody; it's just normally very rare. i had a save where i had at least 3 Fire Magic Rings with each hero so that I could choose any of the 3 as the Flame Champion and equip the rings immediately (the inventory is based on the FC you choose).
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I was planning on having each of them smuggle in a Fire Magic Ring in their equipment but I goofed and left the one I got for Geddoe on Joker before I switched scenarios. That should work though, right? They don't lose their equipment when they meet up, do they?

Part of me wants to start over and farm hardcore with Geddoe but... there's no real reason to do that if everyone can get them. Plus, I have two Earth Magic Rings, a bunch of Killer Runes, a Double-Strike Rune, and sooooo many Lightning Magic Rings (why will those drop like candy but no Fire Magic Rings?)

I read in another topic that luck affected the drop rates but... that doesn't make any sense... or does it? I mean... I can KIND of see it since I was trying to do my farming with Ayame and Landis and they're not all that lucky. I tagged Estella in for Landis so the luck got a little better but... Ayame is still dead weight if that is the case.
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no only some of the Zexen Knights will change helmet and armor in Chapter 4.
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We'll see how honorable I am... I'm tempted to start all over but I'm also tempted to figure out how cheating works.
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I decided to play Suikoden 3 again, and now that I am right before the final boss battle, I am running through all the Treasure Bosses and Random Battles in Order to push the skills of some charakters to the maximum. And I must admit that i am very impressed. The loot and the amount of skill points they give me heheheheh!

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ronnen wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:49 pm So, to add to this... this is the data from the ELF file (with PNACH codes included) as to what the bosses drop, if the item is one time only, and what the odds of the given item "sets" are for each boss...

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1shO ... sp=sharing
I never looked at this before, but based on how the data is structured, it looks like Dream Robe is definitely a possible drop after the first time beating the Ch 5 Twin Snake, and Dragon Scale and Flame Casque are 1-time drops.
mt. path, twin snake (2nd) block 12 Chance 20
mt. path, twin snake (2nd) b12 Treasure 1 Custom Robe
mt. path, twin snake (2nd) b12 Treasure 2 Silver White Robe
mt. path, twin snake (2nd) b12 Treasure 3 Dream Robe
mt. path, twin snake (2nd) b12 Treasure 4 Blessed Robe
mt. path, twin snake (2nd) b12 Treasure 5 Fine Robe
mt. path, twin snake (2nd) b12 Treasure 6 Old Silver Robe
The first item is definitely the item given out the first time you beat that boss. Treasure 2 through 6 are the random drops later on, and the Chance is related to the chance an item from this bucket appears. 20% chance? But Dream Robe is 1/5 and we can't tell from this list if there are different chances for the items listed in each bucket are selected.


Another item of interest, Blood Armor, is supposed to be a common drop by the Copper Sun. I definitely never farmed this guy due to the amount of walking needed.
cyndar, copper sun block 7 Chance 40
cyndar, copper sun b7 Treasure 1 Armor Of Rage
cyndar, copper sun b7 Treasure 2 Fine Armor
cyndar, copper sun b7 Treasure 3 Blood Armor
cyndar, copper sun b7 Treasure 4 Blessed Armor
cyndar, copper sun b7 Treasure 5 Premier Armor
cyndar, copper sun b7 Treasure 6 <ITEM>
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Confirmed random Blood Armor drop by Copper Sun in Cyndar and random Fury Rune from Ghost Knight at Mountain Path (ch 4).
Robe of Mist is also a random obtainable from the North Cavern Ghost Knight.

Update: and finally, I have confirmed the Dream Robe is indeed a random item from the Ch 5 Twin Snake!
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